Treatment of New Special Ed teachers hired by MCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Will these new international special education hires have MCEA status?

Will they be asked to join MCEA and have dues taken out of their paychecks?

If so, will they know that joining a union and paying dues is voluntary?




40 bucks a paycheck to bargain for better pay and conditions? Sign me up.


What better pay? What conditions?

Absolutely no differentiation in the contract for special educators considering all of the extra work involved.

That 80 a month is better served towards my retirement.


Retirement? H*ll, that 80 bucks feeds my family for a week. (hello, Aldi.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will these new international special education hires have MCEA status?

Will they be asked to join MCEA and have dues taken out of their paychecks?

If so, will they know that joining a union and paying dues is voluntary?




40 bucks a paycheck to bargain for better pay and conditions? Sign me up.


What better pay? What conditions?

Absolutely no differentiation in the contract for special educators considering all of the extra work involved.

That 80 a month is better served towards my retirement.


Automatic raises, amazing benefits, summers off and pensions!!! Such a good deal!

IKR! MCPS has to fend off all the applicants!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The semi/ fully professional but lower-income Filipinos I have known over my years in the DC area is that they live in crowded living quarters, not near work, and send half their pay home to their families (including the young children they have left behind). The ones I've personally known live in 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartments with 4 roommates.

Like nursing, this is a solid way to keep the wages of professionals depressed.


A two bedroom for four people is reasonable/normal.


Maybe for college students.
I haven’t heard of too many professionals having roommates sharing a bedroom. That said, these teachers may be focused on saving or sending home as much money as possible and are perfectly happy sharing accommodations and benefiting from the shared experience personally and professionally.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The semi/ fully professional but lower-income Filipinos I have known over my years in the DC area is that they live in crowded living quarters, not near work, and send half their pay home to their families (including the young children they have left behind). The ones I've personally known live in 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartments with 4 roommates.

Like nursing, this is a solid way to keep the wages of professionals depressed.


A two bedroom for four people is reasonable/normal.


Maybe for college students.
I haven’t heard of too many professionals having roommates sharing a bedroom. That said, these teachers may be focused on saving or sending home as much money as possible and are perfectly happy sharing accommodations and benefiting from the shared experience personally and professionally.


Given housing prices of course it's happening. We have a small house with one bathroom, so its normal to us.
Anonymous
Mcps treats sped like they do all teachers. Bad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Mcps treats sped like they do all teachers. Bad.


This is mcps pulling a fast one as they reduced staff and hide these teachers under a contract. They are probably paid next to nothing.
Anonymous
How can I find out if my kid's elementary school has any assignment of these new sped teachers? My kids has IEP. Are they fully qualified and speak English well? My kids have speech disorder, and one still struggles with phonics.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the budget is paying for their housing expenses.


This is how the Filipino teachers throughout the US are contracted.


I'm sorry but how is this fair? Do other teacher recruits receive these benefits?


No. Not if they're hired from anywhere else in the U.S


Clearly neither of you have taught outside the US. Housing is a standard benefit for foreign teachers. I taught in Central Europe before I taught for MCPS. The company I contract with negotiated housing for us. A few friends have taught in the UAE. Their benefits included housing and a driver. I have friends whose kids taught in East Asia. They all got housing and free meals.



When I taught in the public schools in Japan, they provided my housing and paid half the rent! Here it is hard to even find housing or get a credit card without a credit history.


Most of those people work for private or international schools. I know people who do this but they work for the international schools. I know two people who worked in Spain as teachers, worked in China (where they made the most $), and the UAE. Every one of them worked for a private school.

I worked internationally for non profits. My flight was paid for I was given a few days in a hotel then give a couple hundred or a thousand dollars and meant to find my own housing before my first paycheck. Sometimes if you received a small housing allowance but that never fully covered rent and was considered part of your benefit because the salary was so low (less than an MCPS teacher).

If we lived in a compound then you were paid less $. Only in Afghanistan was I paid more and lived on a compound but it was because I received a little more danger pay.

If MCPs pays for their housing it should come out of their salary. What will it do for the morale of US teachers if people from overseas get the same salary (which is worth a lot more overseas) and free housing?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:ALL teachers don't get paid until September, it takes forever to get that first paycheck, we all know this. MCPS posts pay schedules every year.

I feel for them but how is it different for anyone else who moves somewhere new for a job? Unless the company is very wealthy, they typically wouldn't pay for your furniture and living expenses?

Many American born teachers who work for MCPS can't even afford to live in the county, I don't think MCPS is doing anything for them either.

Am I missing something in your post?


Paying a new employee in a salaried position who is moving for the job a moving stipend is common.

Recruiting teachers from outside the US to come here and then not providing adequate support to help them get established in one of the nation’s wealthiest areas before they begin work is not the same as teachers more broadly not being paid a living wage by MCPS, which is also true, and also sucks. If the county can’t hire local teachers for jobs here no one wants and they had to literally recruit outside the country, they have a greater responsibility as the employer to support these new employees and a modest moving stipend is reasonable and appropriate since they (allegedly) didn’t allow them to bring housemates.

You really want your child’s special ed teacher not having sheets or furniture?


I am glad I read this and other posts. We were thinking of a move for a job to MCPS or DC (private) as we currently live in a very high performing public school system. One of my children has a special ed teacher and they actually changed teachers because the first one wasn’t working. They are also very qualified and experienced.

I don’t know how I feel about taxpayer money going to pay for extras for international teachers but not US ones. Don’t you think we would have more qualified teachers if we offered one or two years of an apartment share or something when they were first hired? MCPS should have maybe thought this through more?

I know of people who have hired au pairs and a close family member worked in graduate higher education where a large % are international students. A large majority try and stay here either by marriage (getting pregnant) or trying game the system after their F-1 or OPT have ended. I understanding wanting to live and work abroad, I did that for a few years, but then I came back to the US and settled home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The semi/ fully professional but lower-income Filipinos I have known over my years in the DC area is that they live in crowded living quarters, not near work, and send half their pay home to their families (including the young children they have left behind). The ones I've personally known live in 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartments with 4 roommates.

Like nursing, this is a solid way to keep the wages of professionals depressed.


A two bedroom for four people is reasonable/normal.


A two-bedroom for four unrelated adults is not reasonable/normal in the US.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How can I find out if my kid's elementary school has any assignment of these new sped teachers? My kids has IEP. Are they fully qualified and speak English well? My kids have speech disorder, and one still struggles with phonics.


You are gonna get what you get and not throw a fit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will these new international special education hires have MCEA status?

Will they be asked to join MCEA and have dues taken out of their paychecks?

If so, will they know that joining a union and paying dues is voluntary?




40 bucks a paycheck to bargain for better pay and conditions? Sign me up.




What better pay? What conditions?

Absolutely no differentiation in the contract for special educators considering all of the extra work involved.

That 80 a month is better served towards my retirement.


Automatic raises, amazing benefits, summers off and pensions!!! Such a good deal!


The “raises” are pitiful. The pension is terrible. The benefits aren’t “amazing” and the working conditions are awful.
Anonymous
Sounds like it's similar to au pair cultural exchange programs but for teachers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The semi/ fully professional but lower-income Filipinos I have known over my years in the DC area is that they live in crowded living quarters, not near work, and send half their pay home to their families (including the young children they have left behind). The ones I've personally known live in 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartments with 4 roommates.

Like nursing, this is a solid way to keep the wages of professionals depressed.


A two bedroom for four people is reasonable/normal.


A two-bedroom for four unrelated adults is not reasonable/normal in the US.


I lived like this and so did my son in his 20s. Great way to save money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The semi/ fully professional but lower-income Filipinos I have known over my years in the DC area is that they live in crowded living quarters, not near work, and send half their pay home to their families (including the young children they have left behind). The ones I've personally known live in 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartments with 4 roommates.

Like nursing, this is a solid way to keep the wages of professionals depressed.


A two bedroom for four people is reasonable/normal.


A two-bedroom for four unrelated adults is not reasonable/normal in the US.


I lived like this and so did my son in his 20s. Great way to save money.


How nice for you? The Filipino teachers are likely grown adults with their own families at home, not 20-somethings straight out of college.
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