Screened for drugs without permission

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I had the same experience. My doctor just said they were going to run prenatal blood tests and we discussed the NT screen part of the test and any family history genetic screening tests. It did seem that they went out of their way not to mention anything controversial, like STD, HIV or drug testing, that was also included. I think they just wanted to check the box without having to argue with patients that it wasn't necessary. I'm sure I never asked specifically, but they also absolutely didn't mention it. This does seem to be a standard practice.

To be tested for HIV you need to sign a specific paper.

You did 20 years ago, yes. That is not an ongoing requirement at all places.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

[Anonymous]

“The ACOG does not support universal UDS but instead limits testing to high risk patients. Few studies have evaluated the utility of universal UDS results among mothers admitted to Labor and Delivery (L&D)“

Patients should be screened with a validated drug screening questionnaire as early as possible antepartum. They should be referred to treatment facilities/programs etc. Drug testing requires consent and is NOT part of standard practice.

Family and Child Services are not automatically called for a positive test. They will notified if the baby has withdrawl symptoms or tests positive after delivery. Family services hopes to keep children safe and families together-let’s not assume they want to remove kids from their parents.

For anyone who has struggled with drugs or alcohol in the past, you aren’t alone. Pleaser talk to your healthcare provider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

That isn’t what informed consent is. If you’re truly in the medical field you’re aware of that fact. Read the ACOG guidance someone has already posted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

That isn’t what informed consent is. If you’re truly in the medical field you’re aware of that fact. Read the ACOG guidance someone has already posted.

If you think ACOG guidance is law then it would be you who is ill-informed.

[Anonymous]

She gave consent. She acknowledged that she gave consent. Next time, don’t sign anything until and unless you read allll the fine print and agree.

This is not that complicated.

[Anonymous]

Wow. The medical industry is NOT your friend. Wake up, people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They also run a full std panel. It’s a normal part of early blood tests. I was surprised too. But not offended. It’s not personal.

My doctor (at Foxhall, FWIW) specifically asked if I wanted an STD panel and indicated they would not order the test without my consent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She gave consent. She acknowledged that she gave consent. Next time, don’t sign anything until and unless you read allll the fine print and agree.

This is not that complicated.

This is really dumb. She didn't sign anything specific to the drug test. She might have signed some blanket consent to treat. You are effectively claiming the correct response if you don't want a particular treatment is to give birth in your bathroom with zero medical assistance before or during, because that is the only option available to people who don't sign a general consent to treat form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

That isn’t what informed consent is. If you’re truly in the medical field you’re aware of that fact. Read the ACOG guidance someone has already posted.

If you think ACOG guidance is law then it would be you who is ill-informed.

I didn’t say it was law. I said informed consent isn’t not objecting when someone says they’re taking your blood for a prenatal screening.

Patients with nothing to fear from this (I.e. wealthy patients who aren’t going to test positive) should report this behavior to state licensing boards. It’s the only way violations will be taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of practices drug test. You’ll be drug tested again before going home from the hospital. If found positive depending on the city you may have your child removed by CPS.

And your medical history red flagged forever, easily accessible with just your birth date.

NO social security number needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

That isn’t what informed consent is. If you’re truly in the medical field you’re aware of that fact. Read the ACOG guidance someone has already posted.

If you think ACOG guidance is law then it would be you who is ill-informed.

I didn’t say it was law. I said informed consent isn’t not objecting when someone says they’re taking your blood for a prenatal screening.

Patients with nothing to fear from this (I.e. wealthy patients who aren’t going to test positive) should report this behavior to state licensing boards. It’s the only way violations will be taken seriously.

There’s literally nothing even borderline illegal with what OP’s doctor did. The state licensing board wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous]

Routine part of bloodwork for me at both GW and WHC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone doing drugs while pregnant should be targets and go to jail for life. Testing is a great practice for society.

And doctors who aren’t following the standard of informed consent need to be reported to the state medical boards, which is also a great practice for society.

I missed the part where OP was drugged and passed out. Sitting down in a phlebotomist’s chair and letting someone poke a needle into your arm, drawing your blood and watching them package it away (“confirm your birthdate and name please”) is consent. She’s the idiot who didn’t ask what they were drawing blood for.

That isn’t what informed consent is. If you’re truly in the medical field you’re aware of that fact. Read the ACOG guidance someone has already posted.

If you think ACOG guidance is law then it would be you who is ill-informed.

I didn’t say it was law. I said informed consent isn’t not objecting when someone says they’re taking your blood for a prenatal screening.

Patients with nothing to fear from this (I.e. wealthy patients who aren’t going to test positive) should report this behavior to state licensing boards. It’s the only way violations will be taken seriously.

There’s literally nothing even borderline illegal with what OP’s doctor did. The state licensing board wtf are you talking about

The state medical board doesn’t enforce laws, they enforce complaints against physicians. Which include ethics complaints, including violations of informed consent. I thought you worked in healthcare, don’t you know this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a routine part of pregnancy testing. They do not treat women who come back positive as criminals.

This is absolutely false. They will call CPS

This is the correct answer. They involve CPS if they come back positive.

And, they should call CPS. If you have ever seen a drug addicted new born you would know why drug tests are necessary.