Violence in Kindergarten- Sligo Creek Elementary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. I can’t speak to every single detail mentioned but broadly speaking this is true. I just heard the water bottle story today from a neighbor.

Did they explain how someone could get significantly injured from a water bottle? Because that's the main thing that doesn't seem plausible.

Of course it’s plausible. Those metal water bottles will absolutely cause a major injury if used as a weapon.

Not when you're talking about a kindergartner. There are important details being left out here, and it isn't clear why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The principal is in communication with central office and trying hard to get 1-on-1 supports for the student. It's very challenging because the student is K without an IEP.

There's no requirement for a child to have an IEP to put a paraeducator in the class. That's ridiculously irresponsible of the principal and central office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope the injured staff member is able to sue the district for not protecting her from this student. Being purposely injured by a kid should NEVER be an expected risk in a school.

Who said anything about a purposeful injury?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had issues with the SCES principal last year for a different issue and she was awful to work with—gaslighting, offering empty solutions that sounded good but in reality did nothing, miscommunications galore. Eventually a group of parents in the class went above her head to complain to her supervisor. It was a well organized effort with more than a dozen parents behind it, and the issue was resolved within days of going over the principal’s head. I would recommend the K parents begin organizing and advocating in a similar way to get the kid removed or get a full time aid placed with him/her at all times. I can’t emphasize this enough: the principal will not do it on her own. You need to go above her.

Do not advocate for an aide. Advocate for immediate removal of ANY and ALL students who harm others

And do what with them? Lock them up?

The reality is that MCPS regularly refuses to provide students and teachers with the necessary supports and services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. I can’t speak to every single detail mentioned but broadly speaking this is true. I just heard the water bottle story today from a neighbor.

Did they explain how someone could get significantly injured from a water bottle? Because that's the main thing that doesn't seem plausible.

Of course it’s plausible. Those metal water bottles will absolutely cause a major injury if used as a weapon.

Not when you're talking about a kindergartner. There are important details being left out here, and it isn't clear why.

What do you think the important details are? Para whacked herself in the head?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. I can’t speak to every single detail mentioned but broadly speaking this is true. I just heard the water bottle story today from a neighbor.

Did they explain how someone could get significantly injured from a water bottle? Because that's the main thing that doesn't seem plausible.

Of course it’s plausible. Those metal water bottles will absolutely cause a major injury if used as a weapon.

Not when you're talking about a kindergartner. There are important details being left out here, and it isn't clear why.

What do you think the important details are? Para whacked herself in the head?

It's not clear. Did the teacher fall down, leading to the injuries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What in the holy hell???

OP if this were my child’s kindergarten class, I would become that principals worst nightmare of a parent.

This was my kid's class about 10 years ago. One boy had an IEP that stated he should be in one-on-one environment. He was seated next yo my d, do I heard about everything. At b2s night the mom seemed very worried insisting he was not supposed to be in a classwide setting. Nothing anyone could do because it came from higher up. Principal had aid in all the time, but then he moved. Then she was in there, and I volunteered. She was exhausted. I met with her with some similar observations of violence (kicking, punching, stealing scissors) and she tacitly suggested that if I complained over her head something might be done. I did, reporting the behavior I had witnessed firsthand and suggesting this scenario was a lawsuit waiting to happen. Kid was transferred to special school 2 weeks later.

[Anonymous]

I believe SCES continues to have no special educators in the building. As school base staff have to do all of the evaluations in order to get a student services, I’m certain that has slowed the process. I believe they have a contractor but I’m sure that person is scrambling to service the students who have IEPS.
https://moco360.media/2023/09/21/nearly-half-of-all-current-mcps-full-time-teacher-voids-fall-within-special-education-data-shows/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe SCES continues to have no special educators in the building. As school base staff have to do all of the evaluations in order to get a student services, I’m certain that has slowed the process. I believe they have a contractor but I’m sure that person is scrambling to service the students who have IEPS.
https://moco360.media/2023/09/21/nearly-half-of-all-current-mcps-full-time-teacher-voids-fall-within-special-education-data-shows/

MCPS desperately needs to establish an elevated pay scale for special educators, but MCEA has shown signs that they'd fight it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe SCES continues to have no special educators in the building. As school base staff have to do all of the evaluations in order to get a student services, I’m certain that has slowed the process. I believe they have a contractor but I’m sure that person is scrambling to service the students who have IEPS.
https://moco360.media/2023/09/21/nearly-half-of-all-current-mcps-full-time-teacher-voids-fall-within-special-education-data-shows/

MCPS desperately needs to establish an elevated pay scale for special educators, but MCEA has shown signs that they'd fight it.

Why would they fight it? Aren’t they supposed to advocate for teachers rights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I believe SCES continues to have no special educators in the building. As school base staff have to do all of the evaluations in order to get a student services, I’m certain that has slowed the process. I believe they have a contractor but I’m sure that person is scrambling to service the students who have IEPS.
https://moco360.media/2023/09/21/nearly-half-of-all-current-mcps-full-time-teacher-voids-fall-within-special-education-data-shows/

MCPS desperately needs to establish an elevated pay scale for special educators, but MCEA has shown signs that they'd fight it.

Why would they fight it? Aren’t they supposed to advocate for teachers rights?

They don't want some teachers to make more money than others. Basically, elementary and social science teachers are worried they'd lose out.

[Anonymous]

It’s sad that the children that need help can’t get it. The process for help is limited and unfortunately the school isn’t caring about the students or staff enough to expedite a process for children with issues. I’m sure the parents are just as frustrated and if I were that parent I would call everyone in the county to insure safety for my child and care for those children that are causing disruption.

[Anonymous]

Move your kids to private if you can. Don’t vote for BOE incumbents. Don’t vote for Apple Ballot. Do vote. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move your kids to private if you can. Don’t vote for BOE incumbents. Don’t vote for Apple Ballot. Do vote. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

Ah, now I understand the agenda here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had issues with the SCES principal last year for a different issue and she was awful to work with—gaslighting, offering empty solutions that sounded good but in reality did nothing, miscommunications galore. Eventually a group of parents in the class went above her head to complain to her supervisor. It was a well organized effort with more than a dozen parents behind it, and the issue was resolved within days of going over the principal’s head. I would recommend the K parents begin organizing and advocating in a similar way to get the kid removed or get a full time aid placed with him/her at all times. I can’t emphasize this enough: the principal will not do it on her own. You need to go above her.

There is no real going over the principal's head in this matter. There is a process to follow for this kid to get accommodations or be moved to a different program. Going over the principal's head isn't going to speed it up.

The accommodations aren't coming. The special ed staff doesn't exist. The children are not receiving the legally required IEP resources.