3.8 uw private school gpa/odds

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Anonymous wrote:Thought this was interesting. Results from a New York City private school last year? Anyone know which school this is?

Clearly 3.8 here would appear to be doing just fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/6NODO2IldZ

I think this is a private in NE not necessarily NYC. Here are the results at Dalton and Spence from last year.

https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/
(Class size around 120)
https://www.instagram.com/spence23niors/
Class size 60

I think its Trinity.

Trinity has MUCH better numbers. All what UB (rip) would call “TT” has better numbers.

So this is a tier 2 hs in nyc. Which is crazier

That can’t be right! If so it’s insane.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for fVanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

Comparing publics to privates is apples to oranges. Totally different ecosystem, totally different level of access to the top colleges.

Do big name private college counselors like Ivywise have good data on private school gpa thresholds for T20? I would imagine someone does and it’s pretty valuable.

There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation but here’s the general overview:
3.9+ = competitive for T10+
3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+
3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+

Yes, but as a general guide only.
Depends on other things (who else from the high school is applying, major, etc)….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thought this was interesting. Results from a New York City private school last year? Anyone know which school this is?

Clearly 3.8 here would appear to be doing just fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/s/6NODO2IldZ

I think this is a private in NE not necessarily NYC. Here are the results at Dalton and Spence from last year.

https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/
(Class size around 120)
https://www.instagram.com/spence23niors/
Class size 60

I think its Trinity.

Trinity has MUCH better numbers. All what UB (rip) would call “TT” has better numbers.

So this is a tier 2 hs in nyc. Which is crazier

That can’t be right! If so it’s insane.

I mean, trinity, collegiate, HM, brearley, Dalton, st Ann’s, Spence, Chapin, Regis .. that’s TT and then some .. all have a couple Harvard admits a year min.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has there always been this discrepancy btw public school and private school GPA? What accounts for it?

Grade inflation?
Size of class?

Both. Mainly class size. If you have 500 kids in a class, you can give As to 100 students without looking like grade inflation, even if it is. If you have a class of 125, then giving As to 100 students looks like grade inflation, even if it isn't. You have to have a distribution of grades; everyone can't get As, so in a small school, you end up seeing kids with 3.5 GPA and 1490 SAT.

Keep telling yourself that. The kids I know in public have landed at just as competitive schools as those in private. In many cases, well beyond. It's not what it used to be, but I understand that's a hard pill to swallow if you've paid private tuition for many years.

I don't dispute that, but it is unrelated to my post. The post simply explains part of why there is a discrepancy in GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:How did these private school 3.8s fare last week?

Are they also stuck in waitlist city?

Unhooked 3.8s will are probably on a bunch of T10-T25 waitlists, unless they went ED and got lucky.

If they are lucky they are on WL.
Lots of USC rejections.

There are always lots of USC rejections. That's normal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a NYC private and these stats can be very misleading. Yes the kids are very bright and work hard, but nearly all of the kids getting into Ivy+ schools are legacy, famous parents (think Seinfeld, SJP) or URMs. My 3.9 uw 1510 legacy DC got into my Ivy in 2022 but I can tell you the ONLY kids who got into Ivy+ that year were legacies and URMs. That’s it.

which high school?

Would rather not say but it is generally regarded as a NYC Tier 2 school. So not Trinity, Dalton, HM, etc. Really the best NYC admissions is at Riverdale, we are not there however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

Is this true this year??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has there always been this discrepancy btw public school and private school GPA? What accounts for it?

Grade inflation?
Size of class?

Both. Mainly class size. If you have 500 kids in a class, you can give As to 100 students without looking like grade inflation, even if it is. If you have a class of 125, then giving As to 100 students looks like grade inflation, even if it isn't. You have to have a distribution of grades; everyone can't get As, so in a small school, you end up seeing kids with 3.5 GPA and 1490 SAT.

Thank you for explaining this. There are so many on here who dont see this.
AO do see this though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^^Depends on school they are coming from and the rigor…kids with 3.7 GPA at Big 3 are getting into Wash U, Emory and UChicago ED.

Is this true this year??

No, not from what I can tell.

[Anonymous]

These were my DC's exact stats from a big city private (not in DC). Accepted at Davidson ED1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've seen Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia in this GPA range admitted unhooked (all different kids) in the last 2 admissions seasons. I'm not sure you could replicate this (I have a kid in this bracket who is not even trying) but it has been done.

I’ve seen Cornell and Dartmouth for ivies. Also the other schools mentioned above for T25.
Also, lots of other schools like Boston College, Carnegie Mellon, Barnard, Wellesley, Tufts, Georgetown & Claremont McKenna.

There are lots of options.
Evaluate ED1 and ED2 choices strategically.

NP- You can have two ED schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia in this GPA range admitted unhooked (all different kids) in the last 2 admissions seasons. I'm not sure you could replicate this (I have a kid in this bracket who is not even trying) but it has been done.

I’ve seen Cornell and Dartmouth for ivies. Also the other schools mentioned above for T25.
Also, lots of other schools like Boston College, Carnegie Mellon, Barnard, Wellesley, Tufts, Georgetown & Claremont McKenna.

There are lots of options.
Evaluate ED1 and ED2 choices strategically.

NP- You can have two ED schools?

No, students can apply ED2 if rejected from ED1 choice. ED2 deadlines are later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've seen Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia in this GPA range admitted unhooked (all different kids) in the last 2 admissions seasons. I'm not sure you could replicate this (I have a kid in this bracket who is not even trying) but it has been done.

I’ve seen Cornell and Dartmouth for ivies. Also the other schools mentioned above for T25.
Also, lots of other schools like Boston College, Carnegie Mellon, Barnard, Wellesley, Tufts, Georgetown & Claremont McKenna.

There are lots of options.
Evaluate ED1 and ED2 choices strategically.

NP- You can have two ED schools?

No, students can apply ED2 if rejected from ED1 choice. ED2 deadlines are later.

Should have added that you don't have the ED1 in order to ED2. That probably goes without saying, but I think my post may have sounded that way.

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For a multiracial girl, ED chances?

Private non-DMV rigorous HS
3.88uw
33 (retaking) or TO?
Humanities major (anthropology & interdisciplinary)

Cornell (legacy)
Vanderbilt (legacy)
WashU
Rice

Odds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is polluted with a bunch of wildly over-optimistic people. A 3.8 does not look good when 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs are a dime-a-dozen. Anybody that thinks those stats are a lock for fVanderbilt or Chicago or Dartmouth is nuts.

Comparing publics to privates is apples to oranges. Totally different ecosystem, totally different level of access to the top colleges.

Do big name private college counselors like Ivywise have good data on private school gpa thresholds for T20? I would imagine someone does and it’s pretty valuable.

There’s a bit of private HS reputational variation but here’s the general overview:
3.9+ = competitive for T10+
3.8+ = competitive for T11-20/25+
3.7+ = competitive for T25/30+

Has this guide been true this year? For private HS?