Why does my doctor say HRT for women under 50 is not safe but everyone around me is taking it and feeling good?

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Anonymous wrote:Just out of curiosity, for all the posters who insist on HRT to prevent osteoporosis, do you get regular blood work to check vitamin d?

I’m not for or against HRT, but it does shock me that gyns don’t order bloodwork to check vitamin d, b12, magnesium, as well as TSH before prescribing anything. A lot of symptoms can actually be caused by a vitamin d deficiency, which is common.

I think people assume that if they eat a varied diet and eat healthy, they aren’t deficient in anything, but some people do not absorb certain nutrients well — even if they eat all of the right things.

Mine just did. Not for HRT, though. I’m not ready for that but for low-dose BCP. All within normal ranges.

Low dose BCP is still a higher dose of estrogen than HRT provides.

but you're fundamentally misunderstanding what the dr is saying.

if you are still having periods, you are still making estrogen. if you put hrt on TOP of that, you are exposing your body to higher levels of estrogen than if you take the pill. That's because the pill shuts down all your hormones and replaces them. make sense?

DP - Thanks- I was not understanding what the pill does in terms of "shutting down and replacing". Is it the special combo or what? I'm on Yaz but will be promptly replacing with HRT once my period stops.

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Anonymous wrote:Medicine goes in phases. Right now it's all about HRT, push HRT on everyone. I think the push will likely right itself again.

Personally, sex hormones are some dangerous crap to mess with in a woman. They are much more related to cancer than other things.

I would put off using them as a last resort. Going on levothyroxine, and a few supplements righted the ship. Like the posters that said if there are cancer cells there--the hormones (just like a pregnancy) will really ignite them. With dense breasts, I'm not going to risk it.

Women that go through IVF are at an increased risk for cancer too. It is sex hormones.

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Anonymous wrote:Medicine goes in phases. Right now it's all about HRT, push HRT on everyone. I think the push will likely right itself again.

Personally, sex hormones are some dangerous crap to mess with in a woman. They are much more related to cancer than other things.

I would put off using them as a last resort. Going on levothyroxine, and a few supplements righted the ship. Like the posters that said if there are cancer cells there--the hormones (just like a pregnancy) will really ignite them. With dense breasts, I'm not going to risk it.

Well it helps with a lot of conditions. For years women were denied HRT in any form. I’m sure more research is needed, but for many women they say it gave them their life back.

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The only relative I have who took HRT was also the only relative who developed breast cancer, so I avoided it. She also went through a delayed version of menopause symptoms when. She stopped taking HRT. I decided just to deal with it now and not take HRT.

Have taken Prozac to help with emotional symptoms.

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if you are on the pill, do you still get your period regardless of if in meno or not? i dont understand how if you were on pill you would ever know you were in meno

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Anonymous wrote:So far three (THREE) separate docs, obgyn, online doc for BC and my PCP have agreed that I should be fine on BC all the way up until menses have truly and well stopped for like a year.

So I just stay on the BC.

op - he was fine with BC. bc he says it takes over your existing hormones and doesn't add to them so you dont get the overage that creates the risk.

I’m not a doctor, but if that’s what he said I’m confident he is spewing nonsense. Come on.

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Anonymous wrote:I tried it initially a few years back and it made me very short-tempered and target - kinda like taking prednisone. Roid rage. I have pretty bad symptoms. Maybe I should try again? I’m only 48 and have been in full menopause for 5 years.

You should read the research on early menopause and heart disease, then look at the data on benefits of HRT on heart health. Then talk to your doctor (or a doctor willing to review that research).

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It’s only been in the last hundred years that women have reasonably lived longer than about 10 years after menopause. For those saying estrogen is not natural, it’s actually not natural for us to survive much longer without it. But with increased life expectancy now women are living almost as long without their estrogen reserves as without if you’re living 40 or 45 years past menopause.

Long-term follow up from the women’s health initiative shows that estrogen only hormone replacement therapy actually ended up lowering breast cancer for those women. You can read it yourself -just Google it’s on breast cancer.org.

I’m not saying to go into replacement therapy blindly, but it kind of baffles me that people will take antidepressants, which has all kinds of long-term and short-term side effects, in a world where we have greatly increasing dementia rates. There are studies linking anti-depressants with increased risk of dementia. That’s not to say everyone should just get off antidepressants, but we tend to accept blindly certain drugs, don’t question our relationship with alcohol or processed foods, and then completely crap on estrogen, which helps a lot of women, and is a lot more natural than other crap you are putting in your body, and has a lot of compelling research showing the benefits outweigh the harms for many women.

Breast cancer is very common. Many of us posting will get breast cancer whether or not we do HRT. Fortunately, there are a lot of new treatments and the outlook for breast dancer is much better.

But we also have to look out for our heart health, bone health, and brain health.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s only been in the last hundred years that women have reasonably lived longer than about 10 years after menopause. For those saying estrogen is not natural, it’s actually not natural for us to survive much longer without it. But with increased life expectancy now women are living almost as long without their estrogen reserves as without if you’re living 40 or 45 years past menopause.

Long-term follow up from the women’s health initiative shows that estrogen only hormone replacement therapy actually ended up lowering breast cancer for those women. You can read it yourself -just Google it’s on breast cancer.org.

I’m not saying to go into replacement therapy blindly, but it kind of baffles me that people will take antidepressants, which has all kinds of long-term and short-term side effects, in a world where we have greatly increasing dementia rates. There are studies linking anti-depressants with increased risk of dementia. That’s not to say everyone should just get off antidepressants, but we tend to accept blindly certain drugs, don’t question our relationship with alcohol or processed foods, and then completely crap on estrogen, which helps a lot of women, and is a lot more natural than other crap you are putting in your body, and has a lot of compelling research showing the benefits outweigh the harms for many women.

Breast cancer is very common. Many of us posting will get breast cancer whether or not we do HRT. Fortunately, there are a lot of new treatments and the outlook for breast dancer is much better.

But we also have to look out for our heart health, bone health, and brain health.

This is inaccurate. If women didn't die in childbirth, then they would more often survive their husbands and live decades past menopause.

"In England in the 13th–19th centuries with life expectancy at birth rising from perhaps 25 years to over 40, expectation of life at age 30 has been estimated at 20–30 years,[159] giving an average age at death of about 50-60 for those (a minority at the start of the period but two-thirds at its end) surviving beyond their twenties.

Life expectancy increases with age already achieved.

The table above gives the life expectancy at birth among 13th-century English nobles as 30–33, but having surviving to the age of 21, a male member of the English aristocracy could expect to live:

1200–1300: to age 64
1300–1400: to age 45 (because of the bubonic plague)
1400–1500: to age 69
1500–1550: to age 71

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_vs._other_measures_of_longevity

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I take HRT for bone health and to relieve menopausal symptoms. If you are still having periods, then you do not need to supplement estrogen. Your body is still making it! Read Estrogen Matters and The Menopause Manifesto and learn about how the WHO study of estrogen decades prior has been debunked.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s only been in the last hundred years that women have reasonably lived longer than about 10 years after menopause. For those saying estrogen is not natural, it’s actually not natural for us to survive much longer without it. But with increased life expectancy now women are living almost as long without their estrogen reserves as without if you’re living 40 or 45 years past menopause.

Long-term follow up from the women’s health initiative shows that estrogen only hormone replacement therapy actually ended up lowering breast cancer for those women. You can read it yourself -just Google it’s on breast cancer.org.

I’m not saying to go into replacement therapy blindly, but it kind of baffles me that people will take antidepressants, which has all kinds of long-term and short-term side effects, in a world where we have greatly increasing dementia rates. There are studies linking anti-depressants with increased risk of dementia. That’s not to say everyone should just get off antidepressants, but we tend to accept blindly certain drugs, don’t question our relationship with alcohol or processed foods, and then completely crap on estrogen, which helps a lot of women, and is a lot more natural than other crap you are putting in your body, and has a lot of compelling research showing the benefits outweigh the harms for many women.

Breast cancer is very common. Many of us posting will get breast cancer whether or not we do HRT. Fortunately, there are a lot of new treatments and the outlook for breast dancer is much better.

But we also have to look out for our heart health, bone health, and brain health.

This is inaccurate. If women didn't die in childbirth, then they would more often survive their husbands and live decades past menopause.

"In England in the 13th–19th centuries with life expectancy at birth rising from perhaps 25 years to over 40, expectation of life at age 30 has been estimated at 20–30 years,[159] giving an average age at death of about 50-60 for those (a minority at the start of the period but two-thirds at its end) surviving beyond their twenties.

Life expectancy increases with age already achieved.

The table above gives the life expectancy at birth among 13th-century English nobles as 30–33, but having surviving to the age of 21, a male member of the English aristocracy could expect to live:

1200–1300: to age 64
1300–1400: to age 45 (because of the bubonic plague)
1400–1500: to age 69
1500–1550: to age 71

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_vs._other_measures_of_longevity

You are ignoring the huge swaths of the population that died of poverty earlier. Yes, if you made it to 40 were more likely to live longer, but what you’re missing is that most people did not make it to 40.

This is not controversial, people are living longer in the last hundred years than ever before. Many many women in history did not live more than a decade past menopause.

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Life expectancy

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3ggYMMPsBQ/?igsh=cmlseWZoYzBwc2Fw

“Never before have we ever lived this long on a global scale. This longevity thing is brand new.”

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Anonymous wrote:Because your dr doesn't get kickbacks from HRT companies.

+1 this whole HRT bandwagon is ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:I think HRT is awful. Just start doing yoga, stop eating processed junk foods and MEAT, and drink lots of water. I'm older than all my neighbors/most friends and I look better than all of them so far. Some are on HRT, some not. It really comes down to diet, stress levels, and exercise. I don't work so I am able to focus more on these things.

You forgot the biggest factor of all: genetics.

Ding, ding, ding. I don't need HRT because my mom and grandmother lived long lives and were very youthful.

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Anonymous wrote:My doc says I'm not ready for HRT because my cycle is regular. Because I am showing signs of perimenopause, she recommends low dose BC with estrogen. Later I will be a candidate for HRT.

Isn’t BC HRT?