Penn President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:I was concerned by the questions and attitude of the qustioner. Let me understand, she is a Trumper, a pro insurecctionalist and anti abortion. Now she's concerned about free speech violation. She was trying to trap.

Exactly! Sadly the 3 women University Presidents fell for the trap.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

Ooh, now tell us what happens when black people/POC/women are criticized. We'll wait.

And btw? The idiot students weren't simply criticizing Israel. They were calling for its GENOCIDE. Interesting, but so telling, that THAT FACT doesn't "chill" you.

[Anonymous]

Good riddance. If want to allow free speech in campus, then go for it. But when the you protect every minority group on campus from harassment except for Jews, that is antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1000 - UN General Secretary said it best and they were also calling for his resignation

The UN is corrupt and needs to be dismantled.

The UN is literally the Thugs and Dictators club. And yes, beyond that it is very very corrupt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

No one is saying you can’t criticize Israel. But that’s very different than calling for its destruction or the killing of all Jews.
Why is it ok for a University to cancel a speaker because that person is against affirmative action but allow for speakers who advocate for genocide?

Exactly. We are living in the Upside Down, but thankfully, people are starting to wake up and speak out about the hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

Ooh, now tell us what happens when black people/POC/women are criticized. We'll wait.

And btw? The idiot students weren't simply criticizing Israel. They were calling for its GENOCIDE. Interesting, but so telling, that THAT FACT doesn't "chill" you.

DP.

Excuse me, but you are required to use the term BIPOC, not “POC.” Do better.

Or else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

You can.
Please remember, Jewish people and the current Israeli government are often two different categories. By combining them, as you did by implication, you are suggesting all Jews think one thing. Far from true, and how false tropes are renewed and hatred fueled.

Israel can and should be criticized, like so many other governments.

The university leadership grappling with free speech issues are in a really tough spot. Our Constitutional rights versus students calling for the annihilation of a people.

I don’t think “punishment” of students is the answer. I do wish university leadership cared enough to say - to all groups threatening others- you can’t do that here.

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Anonymous wrote:It is outrageous (if not surprising) that Ivy League presidents are being pushed out by monied interests. This exposes the academy for what it is: spineless, compromised, and beholden to the almighty dollar, just like everyone else. They blew their chance to stand on the side of the first amendment and freedom of thought.

This is not about antisemitism; it is about having a nuanced view of a complex situation. The silver lining is that Ackerman and others stand on such shaky ground that they resort to making threats about taking their money elsewhere. Everyone, including and especially college students, know the truth about what has happened to Palestinians in the Israeli occupation and the truth will win out in the end. This is a sad day for democracy.

The sad day for democracy occurred when universities decided to enforce the first amendment as they saw fit, rather than equally across the board. Everyone I know who supports the firings has zero problem with free speech or even hate speech. But it can't solely be allowed for certain groups and not all.

^^
Moreover, what these presidents did was use the excuse of free speech to allow harassment and bullying. They conflating two separate issues.

The thing that boggles my mind is that they weren't given better advice going into the hearing. All they had to say was: Yes, if students are threatened, and calls for any groups of students' death, then it will be dealt with. Such an easy answer and they couldn't just say that. We would not be here discussing this if they had said that.

They didn't say that because if they had, their progressive left students would have come after them. And really, the progressive left in general. Apparently, they feel they should get a pass for calling for intifada. In short, they - like many higher ed administrators - are cowards.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

Did you find it “chilling” when a Yale Professor and his lecturer wife was disciplined for an email sent out about Halloween costumes, suggesting that people talk to each other if they have an issue with someone’s costume and expressing concern that colleges were becoming "places of censure and prohibition“? That email was greeted with protests and articles, like the one below, with the Yale President explaining how such “offensive” speech needed to be limited to make colleges a “safe space” for students.

https://www.vox.com/2015/11/7/9689330/yale-halloween-email

How about female Penn swimmers who were threatened with losing their scholarships if they objecting to having a person with a penis changing clothes in their locker room? How about the Hispanic Yale student who was harassed by Administrators because he referred to his “trap house” in an email invitation? How about the Professor who was removed for showing an image of the Prophet Mohammad, even though she warned her students she was going to do so and gave them an opportunity to leave? There are more.

This is not a first amendment issue, this is a title VI equal treatment issue. The MIT President admitted in writing that they aren’t enforcing MIT’s rules against pro Palestinian protestors because it might cause some of them visa issues. The colleges have made this bed, now they get to lie in it.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

Ooh, tell us all about what happened on Oct. 7th, that led to Israel defending itself. We'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Need to start hiring more outspoken conservative faculty.

University professors who identify as liberal democrats outnumber republican professors 28 to 1 in New England.

In virtually every competitive university, liberal democrat professors vastly outnumber republicans or moderates, even though the U.S. is politically divided roughly 50/50.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_American_academics#Later_surveys

Time for big changes on campuses nationwide.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

+1. Fired over a hypothetical. No one has called for genocide against Jewish people (one-sided interpretations of a chant don’t count). Meanwhile, the Palestinians are being eradicated (even from Southern Gaza where Israel told them to go).

Maybe some of their middle eastern neighbors should be taking Palestinians into their countries. Why aren't they?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

Israel could take care of the problem with the push of a button. They have shown restraint that Palestinians/Hamas would never extend to Israel.

+100
Israel has told the Palestinians where to go in order to avoid the fighting. It is Hamas who is using their OWN PEOPLE as human shields. Hamas needs to be eradicated from the face of the planet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

+1

The irony is that Israel seems to be committing genocide against the Palestinians.

Israel could take care of the problem with the push of a button. They have shown restraint that Palestinians/Hamas would never extend to Israel.

You have seriously lost your moral compass if you think anything Israel does is ok as long as don’t actually drop a nuclear bomb on Gaza.

DP. Where is your moral compass? Have you just magically forgotten what Hamas did to Israel on Oct. 7? Rapes, torture, kidnapping, murders... was that nothing to you? Idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find it chilling that you cannot criticize Jewish people or Israel in any way without severe consequences. Cancel culture in overdrive

Did you find it “chilling” when a Yale Professor and his lecturer wife was disciplined for an email sent out about Halloween costumes, suggesting that people talk to each other if they have an issue with someone’s costume and expressing concern that colleges were becoming "places of censure and prohibition“? That email was greeted with protests and articles, like the one below, with the Yale President explaining how such “offensive” speech needed to be limited to make colleges a “safe space” for students.

https://www.vox.com/2015/11/7/9689330/yale-halloween-email

How about female Penn swimmers who were threatened with losing their scholarships if they objecting to having a person with a penis changing clothes in their locker room? How about the Hispanic Yale student who was harassed by Administrators because he referred to his “trap house” in an email invitation? How about the Professor who was removed for showing an image of the Prophet Mohammad, even though she warned her students she was going to do so and gave them an opportunity to leave? There are more.

This is not a first amendment issue, this is a title VI equal treatment issue. The MIT President admitted in writing that they aren’t enforcing MIT’s rules against pro Palestinian protestors because it might cause some of them visa issues. The colleges have made this bed, now they get to lie in it.

The most liberal universities now encourage segregate on their campuses by holding “separate but equal” commencement ceremonies based on race.

https://www.newsweek.com/college-segregating-graduation-ceremonies-race-sparks-anger-1789278

Do you believe Newsweek is credible journalism? (I do).