Whoi else is going to pay for our kids to go to college, if not the full pay students? You know they are crucial to a college, right? |
They told you who took your kids seat?!?!?! |
DP here - of course they didn't - OP wants to believe that. |
Most consider recruited athlete a hook when in reality it is a spike. At the end of the day selective colleges are going to cultivate their class based on institutional priorities and those are generally not public knowledge. Smart, hard working good kids will get in to good schools as will some not so smart, lazy problem kids. |
It used to be that being from a state without a lot of applicants (North Dakota, Arkansas) was a minor hook, since schools want to brag students come from everywhere.
These days can expand to places with geopolitical appeal -- Ukraine, Ethiopia etc. (I know a few examples of each from schools I attended / work at currently, but do not know whether these were considered by admissions at the schools. Also athlete is about talent, but also very much about whether you fill a niche that is needed for a team, and with music beyond the extreme "spike", if you play an oboe and the orchestra has 0, that could help tip the scales. |
I didn't write that to suggest that NOBODY experiences what your child experienced. He sounds like a bright kid, and I'm sorry he was overlooked by some good schools. The point is that the average kid enrolling at T20 schools isn't a superhero with supernatural academics, unimaginably high-level ECs, and linear alegebra mastered before the tooth fairy showed up; or else hooks and spikes galore. They're not. They're just not. |
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I would think that military kids show that they can adjust in new environments and know how to get involved. They are usually not the kids who are 5 months into their freshman year and still having trouble making friends or getting into school activities. They are usually adaptable so I would think that’s a safe hook for a college. |
They both attended the same college. This was college to law school. And I never said it was “my” kid’s seat. You’re both being rude. It’s just a fact that my kid had higher stats. Comparing all the other ways they were different (not much), I think it came down to zip codes and assumptions about them. Rural was a good hook. |
Only at a school that gets very few military kid applications. Very, very few. So few that it’s considered “diversity”. |
At some schools, yes. Those that have to struggle to balance their budgets. |
So here’s my take:
Recruited athletes in one pile Big donor kids (and celebrity kids) in another Then a sort through the rest of applications to shake out those that do not meet median GPA and test scores. Then college starts filling what they need: geographic, ethnic, and socioeconomic diversity; full pay; gender; special talent (ie spot in orchestra, debate team, etc), intended major (if they have tenured poetry professors, they need students who want to major in poetry). They end up with multiple candidates that fit the buckets needed. So they turn to the recommendations and essay. That is where the subjectiveness comes into play. I might be totally wrong but that’s how I would do it. |
So in your world, colleges are in the business from the good of their heart, not for money? You don't know a thing about colleges. News flash: Even HYPS will take the free money. |
Being a chess grandmaster (I have a little inside information on that). |
How is that a "hook" and not just an extracurricular? |