Seems like everyone’s upper middle class adult kids have an MBA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

I wrote the post that you quoted and that you incorrectly asserted was wrong.

I wonder if you are confusing Wharton's Executive MBA Program with a part-time MBA program ? However, if you can link us to any part-time Wharton MBA program I will thank you & apologize.

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/part-time-rankings

[Anonymous]

How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

[Anonymous]

And, yes, I am aware that the Wharton School recently began offering a full-time 22 month long online MBA program.

To LSE MBA 2015 graduate: Are you asserting that this full-time online MBA from the Wharton School is apart-time program ? If so, I understand. However, the program is 22 months long which and requires a full load of courses which resembles full-time MBA program--not a part-time program. But, I could be wrong or I may misunderstand so I respectfully look forward to your response. Thank you in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

My understanding is that Wharton's Executive MBA Program is a cohort based program. All students in a particular cohort start & finish together--which is the hallmark of a full-time MBA program--not a part-time program.

Almost all EMBA (executive MBA programs) programs are designed for working managers and executives. Classes are continuous and cohort based.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

To LSE MBA 2015 graduate:

Continuing my response: The EMBA Program at Wharton requires a payment of $223,500 for all participants. True part-time programs charge course-by-course (by hourly course credits) and the time in which one completes the degree is flexible. Wharton's EMBA Program has no such flexibility--it is a full-time MBA program for working professionals/executives.

https://executivemba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba-or-emba/

Your confusion may stem from Wharton's generic explanation comparing a traditional full-time MBA program to a typical EMBA program because it uses the term " Schedules vary among programs,but most offer part-time formats like weekend classes."

Wharton's EMBA Program offers no flexibility regarding which classes are taken when, all classes are taken as a cohort, and all students are required to pay the full tuition of $223,500 upfront or in a payment arrangement that recognizes one's balance from day one of the EMBA program as at least $223,500.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

Again, I believe that it is you who is wrong as Wharton does not offer a part-time MBA online or otherwise.

Your error appears to be based in the delivery system (online) and in the class schedule (end of week & weekend days)--neither of which relegate an MBA program to part-time status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

To LSE MBA 2015 graduate:

Continuing my response: The EMBA Program at Wharton requires a payment of $223,500 for all participants. True part-time programs charge course-by-course (by hourly course credits) and the time in which one completes the degree is flexible. Wharton's EMBA Program has no such flexibility--it is a full-time MBA program for working professionals/executives.

https://executivemba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba-or-emba/

Your confusion may stem from Wharton's generic explanation comparing a traditional full-time MBA program to a typical EMBA program because it uses the term " Schedules vary among programs,but most offer part-time formats like weekend classes."

Wharton's EMBA Program offers no flexibility regarding which classes are taken when, all classes are taken as a cohort, and all students are required to pay the full tuition of $223,500 upfront or in a payment arrangement that recognizes one's balance from day one of the EMBA program as at least $223,500.

Also, EMBA's typically require an employer to sponsor you and pay for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

To LSE MBA 2015 graduate:

Continuing my response: The EMBA Program at Wharton requires a payment of $223,500 for all participants. True part-time programs charge course-by-course (by hourly course credits) and the time in which one completes the degree is flexible. Wharton's EMBA Program has no such flexibility--it is a full-time MBA program for working professionals/executives.

https://executivemba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba-or-emba/

Your confusion may stem from Wharton's generic explanation comparing a traditional full-time MBA program to a typical EMBA program because it uses the term " Schedules vary among programs,but most offer part-time formats like weekend classes."

Wharton's EMBA Program offers no flexibility regarding which classes are taken when, all classes are taken as a cohort, and all students are required to pay the full tuition of $223,500 upfront or in a payment arrangement that recognizes one's balance from day one of the EMBA program as at least $223,500.

Also, EMBA's typically require an employer to sponsor you and pay for it.

My understanding is that this has changed over the last decade, but it could--and probably does--vary by EMBA program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is an executive MBA program where students login on Fridays not a part-time MBA?

To LSE MBA 2015 graduate:

Continuing my response: The EMBA Program at Wharton requires a payment of $223,500 for all participants. True part-time programs charge course-by-course (by hourly course credits) and the time in which one completes the degree is flexible. Wharton's EMBA Program has no such flexibility--it is a full-time MBA program for working professionals/executives.

https://executivemba.wharton.upenn.edu/mba-or-emba/

Your confusion may stem from Wharton's generic explanation comparing a traditional full-time MBA program to a typical EMBA program because it uses the term " Schedules vary among programs,but most offer part-time formats like weekend classes."

Wharton's EMBA Program offers no flexibility regarding which classes are taken when, all classes are taken as a cohort, and all students are required to pay the full tuition of $223,500 upfront or in a payment arrangement that recognizes one's balance from day one of the EMBA program as at least $223,500.

Also, EMBA's typically require an employer to sponsor you and pay for it.

My understanding is that this has changed over the last decade, but it could--and probably does--vary by EMBA program.

Most EMBA programs do require that one be employed as a manager or higher and have around 10 years of work experience. Also, recommendations are required. However, employers are less willing to pay for EMBA programs,so, while many still do, if an applicant can pay the upfront bill (usually above $150,000 up to about $230,000) the program will allow the student to do so. But,this can vary by program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

Again, I believe that it is you who is wrong as Wharton does not offer a part-time MBA online or otherwise.

Your error appears to be based in the delivery system (online) and in the class schedule (end of week & weekend days)--neither of which relegate an MBA program to part-time status.

Wharton's Executive online MBA requires students to login 2 Fridays and 2 Saturdays per month. Do you really think that these "executives" are not working full-time somewhere else the other 26 days of the month? Whether it's called "Executive," "online " or "cohort based," it's still part-time.

P.S. I have a job that pays a couple of hundred grand per year, so please excuse my absence, as I can't devote as much time to this thread as other folks.

LSE MBA '15

[Anonymous]

Executive MBA Programs: EMBA Programs ranked by US News:

https://usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/executive-rankings

The lower ranked programs charge much lower tuition & fees than do the top ranked US EMBA programs.

https://topmba.com/emba-rankings/global/2023

(I can never find a ranking of LSE's EMBA program.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

Again, I believe that it is you who is wrong as Wharton does not offer a part-time MBA online or otherwise.

Your error appears to be based in the delivery system (online) and in the class schedule (end of week & weekend days)--neither of which relegate an MBA program to part-time status.

Wharton's Executive online MBA requires students to login 2 Fridays and 2 Saturdays per month. Do you really think that these "executives" are not working full-time somewhere else the other 26 days of the month? Whether it's called "Executive," "online " or "cohort based," it's still part-time.

P.S. I have a job that pays a couple of hundred grand per year, so please excuse my absence, as I can't devote as much time to this thread as other folks.

LSE MBA '15

Again, you misunderstand.

EMBA programs almost universally require that members of each cohort remain employed full-time while enrolled in the EMBA program.

As an aside, LSE (London School of Economics) MBA is really just an unranked EMBA programas best as I can find. Were you an EMBA student at LSE or a Masters in Management (MIM) LSE gaduate ? Thank you in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

Again, I believe that it is you who is wrong as Wharton does not offer a part-time MBA online or otherwise.

Your error appears to be based in the delivery system (online) and in the class schedule (end of week & weekend days)--neither of which relegate an MBA program to part-time status.

Wharton's Executive online MBA requires students to login 2 Fridays and 2 Saturdays per month. Do you really think that these "executives" are not working full-time somewhere else the other 26 days of the month? Whether it's called "Executive," "online " or "cohort based," it's still part-time.

P.S. I have a job that pays a couple of hundred grand per year, so please excuse my absence, as I can't devote as much time to this thread as other folks.

LSE MBA '15

Again, you misunderstand.

EMBA programs almost universally require that members of each cohort remain employed full-time while enrolled in the EMBA program.

As an aside, LSE (London School of Economics) MBA is really just an unranked EMBA programas best as I can find. Were you an EMBA student at LSE or a Masters in Management (MIM) LSE gaduate ? Thank you in advance.

London School of Economics MBA unranked? Really? Look at the Financial Times rankings. (Granted, the LONDON School of Economics is not ranked by US News for obvious reasons.) Within 5 years of graduation, average salaries are approaching half a mil US$. One of my classmates became Chair of Deloitte France, another became COO of the largest energy company in Europe. I'm making a couple of hundred k and I'm probably the poorest in my class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where one earns an MBA is most important IF looking to change careers OR change employers after just a few years of post undergraduate degree work experience.

Ignore anyone who tries to tell you that Harvard, Stanford, & UPenn-Wharton are better than Northwestern-Kellogg or Chicago-Booth.

In certain situations a program may be best suited for one's chosen career path; for example, NYU, UPenn-Wharton, Columbia, and Chicago are great for finance;

Northwestern-Kellogg is, and has been for many decades, the best for marketing;

Supply Chain Management top MBA programs are MIT, Michigan State, Penn State, and ASU (Arizona State).

Production/Operations types should consider MIT-Sloan & Carnegie Mellon-Tepper and a few others.

For an MBA in accounting: the University of Texas at Austin & Univ. of Illinois are outstanding.

However, most of us think of an MBA as a Management degree. The best MBA programs for Management are Harvard, Stanford, Northwestern-Kellogg, and UPenn-Wharton. Dartmouth-Tuck MBAs do extremeley well in this area also.

There are other concentrations such as non-profit and international.

The younger the student, the more important it is to have a name brand MBA because young MBA students lack in real world post undergraduate work experience.

The old rule was to get an MBA at an M-7 program: Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Northwestern-Kellogg, Chicago-Booth, Columbia, or MIT. Things are changing a bit as employers want MBA who are tech-savvy.

Harvard & Stanford & Wharton stay a bit above the rest of the elite MBA programs in part because none of these 3 offer a part-time MBA option.

Wrong, Wharton has a part-time online MBA.
(Harvard, Stanford, and Tuck are the only B schools without a part-time MBA.)

-London School of Economics MBA Class of '15

Again, I believe that it is you who is wrong as Wharton does not offer a part-time MBA online or otherwise.

Your error appears to be based in the delivery system (online) and in the class schedule (end of week & weekend days)--neither of which relegate an MBA program to part-time status.

Wharton's Executive online MBA requires students to login 2 Fridays and 2 Saturdays per month. Do you really think that these "executives" are not working full-time somewhere else the other 26 days of the month? Whether it's called "Executive," "online " or "cohort based," it's still part-time.

P.S. I have a job that pays a couple of hundred grand per year, so please excuse my absence, as I can't devote as much time to this thread as other folks.

LSE MBA '15

Again, you misunderstand.

EMBA programs almost universally require that members of each cohort remain employed full-time while enrolled in the EMBA program.

As an aside, LSE (London School of Economics) MBA is really just an unranked EMBA programas best as I can find. Were you an EMBA student at LSE or a Masters in Management (MIM) LSE gaduate ? Thank you in advance.

London School of Economics MBA unranked? Really? Look at the Financial Times rankings. (Granted, the LONDON School of Economics is not ranked by US News for obvious reasons.) Within 5 years of graduation, average salaries are approaching half a mil US$. One of my classmates became Chair of Deloitte France, another became COO of the largest energy company in Europe. I'm making a couple of hundred k and I'm probably the poorest in my class.

Again, you misunderstand.

My question concerns the ranking of the EMBA/MBA program at LSA, not the undergraduate programs.

Do you really have an MBA from LSE ?

If so, is it an EMBA program as LSE does not appear to have any other MBA program.

Or do you hold a MIM (Masters in Management) from LSE ?

LSE's EMBA program does not appear to be ranked; however, I hope that you can show me otherwise.