Notre Dame as non-typical student

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Anonymous wrote:I was looking at Notre Dame’s admissions page —“we empower brilliant energetic thinkers who are motivated to change the world.”

Heady stuff! That’s a pretty high threshold. I suppose there are enough students like that, but most 17/18 year olds have no idea what they want to do in life, let alone change the world!

Are regular high-achieving students ever admitted to Notre Dame— kids who have lots of APs, good work ethic, well-liked, good EC—or just the students who have extraordinary experiences and insights?

You actually believe what an admissions page says? That's all fluff marketing.

So you’re saying regular kids ARE admitted?? You don’t have to be a super star?

Yes, regular catholic legacies are admitted. Here's another piece of ND marketing:

What type of student does Notre Dame look for?
Well-rounded senior class leaders. Dedicated artists. Our most competitive applicants are more than just students—they are creative intellectuals, passionate people with multiple interests. Above all else, they are involved—in the classroom, in the community, and in the relentless pursuit of truth.

same garbage that every school prints

Oh yep, I saw that. “Relentless pursuit of truth” 😂😂

Ridiculous. Really. So what do you put in your essay, "I relentlessly pursue truth". ding!

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I.grew up in an area with Notre Dame grads. They are pretty much wall flowers with average intelligence. I can find a much more intelligent group of alumni from a Podunk state college.

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Anonymous wrote:I.grew up in an area with Notre Dame grads. They are pretty much wall flowers with average intelligence. I can find a much more intelligent group of alumni from a Podunk state college.

Employers disagree with you which is the most important thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I.grew up in an area with Notre Dame grads. They are pretty much wall flowers with average intelligence. I can find a much more intelligent group of alumni from a Podunk state college.

Employers disagree with you which is the most important thing.

Employers kind of actually agree with pp

Faang, citadel/sig/marker making trading, PE/vc/hf, top tier consulting isn’t really peppered with ND grads

I like nd a lot and I think its one of the best schools in the country but it is less “high octane” than say Penn or duke

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Anonymous wrote:I.grew up in an area with Notre Dame grads. They are pretty much wall flowers with average intelligence. I can find a much more intelligent group of alumni from a Podunk state college.

Employers disagree with you which is the most important thing.

Employers kind of actually agree with pp

Faang, citadel/sig/marker making trading, PE/vc/hf, top tier consulting isn’t really peppered with ND grads

I like nd a lot and I think its one of the best schools in the country but it is less “high octane” than say Penn or duke

https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?152080-University-of-Notre-Dame
ND: $93K

Pretty good compared to many other T20 schools

Also
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/consulting-target-schools
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools

You don't know what you are talking about



https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?152080-University-of-Notre-Dame
Duke: $97K

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My non-typical kid chose ND business especially because of the performance and outcome.

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ND kids tend to either go teach at a Catholic school and make almost nothing, or go on to law or medicine. Hence, the out comes.

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Anonymous wrote:ND kids tend to either go teach at a Catholic school and make almost nothing, or go on to law or medicine. Hence, the out comes.

Right, they have a good undergrad biz school but nobody goes there.🙄

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Anonymous wrote:ND kids tend to either go teach at a Catholic school and make almost nothing, or go on to law or medicine. Hence, the out comes.

Interesting way to try to justify bad stats

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Anonymous wrote:P.S. Your fake little business district is pathetic.

Huh?

I think this is a reference to Eddy Street Commons.

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Anonymous wrote:I.grew up in an area with Notre Dame grads. They are pretty much wall flowers with average intelligence. I can find a much more intelligent group of alumni from a Podunk state college.

Cool. Nowadays they reject the brightest students from DC’s private high school. Things have maybe changed. It’s extremely difficult to get in

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Anonymous wrote:ND kids tend to either go teach at a Catholic school and make almost nothing, or go on to law or medicine. Hence, the out comes.

These comments are bizarre. Yes, my daughter has a couple of mission driven teachers who are ND grads in her Catholic HS, and we are grateful for that. But on the other hand, my son, who graduated recently, is a successful data scientist working on top secret military projects, and many of his college friends are working on Wall Street. Not sure where you are getting your info.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Wow, you seem very close minded. You need to get over the Jesuit thing. There isn't much difference between the vibe at ND and BC. You eliminate a top 20 Catholic university because it isn't Jesuit? Your poor kid.

IYKYK. Jesuit institutions have a very specific educational philosophy that leads to curricular decisions and influences campus life. For people who want that, it really isn't duplicated at non-Jesuit schools.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic with degrees from 2 Catholic universities (neither of which I attended BECAUSE they were Catholic), it seems like non-Catholics often overestimate the cohesion & exclusivity among Catholics. Yes, there are few extremist factions within Catholicism, but at ND, BC, Villanova, etc there are no secret handshakes or special privileges. In fact, anybody who would try to establish something like that would be scorned.

Also I Catholic with a degree from a Catholic college, and kids in Catholic schools, and while I don't disagree with what pp says, I don't think it can go with out saying that ND and Villanova are much more traditional Catholic than Georgetown and BC. My own kid has toured and will apply to several Jesuit colleges and zero non-Jesuit colleges.
But if OP's kid feels a connection with ND, then good for both of them.

Wow, you seem very close minded. You need to get over the Jesuit thing. There isn't much difference between the vibe at ND and BC. You eliminate a top 20 Catholic university because it isn't Jesuit? Your poor kid.

IYKYK. Jesuit institutions have a very specific educational philosophy that leads to curricular decisions and influences campus life. For people who want that, it really isn't duplicated at non-Jesuit schools.

Well we know. My kid had four years of Jesuit education in HS and then went on to ND. He also got into BC and other Jesuit schools, but chose ND for numerous reasons including campus life and academics. Both are great schools. ND seems more dedicated to its Catholic identity, which, for us, is not a bad thing. in fact, I would take this a step further and discourage my younger kid from attending Georgetown because of the fact that tend to tone down their Catholic affiliation, which is very unfortunate.