Article on benefits of eliminating math tracking

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

This is true, but funny how many “progressives” (or folks that want to signal as much) hold their own children to much higher standards.

Exactly. And most wait until their kids graduate HS before they start trying to destroy school systems with ridiculous convepts like equity, restorative justice anti-racism, etc.

It's not the civilians. It's DCPS that talks more about equity, restorative justice, anti-racism, etc. than academics.

Here in MoCo we have a group called the commie mommies who push this stuff and well as putting porn in schools and males in girls bathrooms, locker rooms, and on their sports teams. They are civilians, PTA leaders, etc.

Can you provide evidence of this? It sounds like a right-wing fever dream.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

Crabs at the bottom of the bucket.

Most strivers are not at th bottom of the bucket. They are MC/UMC, especially immigrants.

Wealthy ppl want to perpetuate and maintain their lifestyle and pass that onward to their kids. Others who want to break into the UMC/UC are pejoratively called strivers. Because they can't rely on trust funds and their kids need to get educated and make an income (oh and you bet they do).

The anti-“strivers” are the crabs at the bottom of the bucket.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

Crabs at the bottom of the bucket.

Most strivers are not at th bottom of the bucket. They are MC/UMC, especially immigrants.

Wealthy ppl want to perpetuate and maintain their lifestyle and pass that onward to their kids. Others who want to break into the UMC/UC are pejoratively called strivers. Because they can't rely on trust funds and their kids need to get educated and make an income (oh and you bet they do).

Just one correction to your class struggle drivel - UMC people don't have "trust funds" for their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

Really? It's more often conservatives in my experience. They disdain education and tend to believe in magic and gossip.

How many conservatives do you actually know? I think you either "know" conservatives from something you saw on MSNBC or they are your imagined "boogie man". Conservatives score just as highly as liberals on surveys of civics, history, science and political knowledge. They favor competition in education, not control by teacher unions. They favor a focus on actual learning of traditional subjects in schools, rather than time spent on social issues. And they recognize that college is not for everyone, so push other alternatives as well. I don't think conservatives disdain education.

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If resources are available in school, you can have gifted track or math acceleration to benefit some. However, it creates a class culture in school, like first class and economy passengers in a flight and probably unhealthy for others.

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Anonymous wrote:If resources are available in school, you can have gifted track or math acceleration to benefit some. However, it creates a class culture in school, like first class and economy passengers in a flight and probably unhealthy for others.

“probably unhealthy”? with the state of education in DCPS, if DCPS decided to teach only to the lowest achievers then kids would be reading 1st grade readers in 5th grade. The whole point of school is education, and all kids deserve a curriculum that meets their needs and is ambitious. That goes for the kids who continue to need reading instruction in MS as well as the kids who need accelerated math.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

Really? It's more often conservatives in my experience. They disdain education and tend to believe in magic and gossip.

What's more 9ften conservatives?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

This is true, but funny how many “progressives” (or folks that want to signal as much) hold their own children to much higher standards.

Exactly. And most wait until their kids graduate HS before they start trying to destroy school systems with ridiculous convepts like equity, restorative justice anti-racism, etc.

It's not the civilians. It's DCPS that talks more about equity, restorative justice, anti-racism, etc. than academics.

Here in MoCo we have a group called the commie mommies who push this stuff and well as putting porn in schools and males in girls bathrooms, locker rooms, and on their sports teams. They are civilians, PTA leaders, etc.

Can you provide evidence of this? It sounds like a right-wing fever dream.

In our school district (Montgomery County, MD), males can play girls sports and use their bathrooms and locker rooms just by saying they are girls. And the BOE recently passed a policy that says parents cannot opt their kids out of reading books featuring gay and trans characters. Both of these policies were supported by the commie mommies. As a liberal, I'm OK with my kids reading these books but I also don't want the state forcing people who don't want their kids reading them to have to read them. That's a what a fascist would support.

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Anonymous wrote:If resources are available in school, you can have gifted track or math acceleration to benefit some. However, it creates a class culture in school, like first class and economy passengers in a flight and probably unhealthy for others.

“probably unhealthy”? with the state of education in DCPS, if DCPS decided to teach only to the lowest achievers then kids would be reading 1st grade readers in 5th grade. The whole point of school is education, and all kids deserve a curriculum that meets their needs and is ambitious. That goes for the kids who continue to need reading instruction in MS as well as the kids who need accelerated math.

This is equity which is what progressives want.

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There is no hope.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no hope.

There is! Elect moderate Dems instead of insane leftists who live in the land of make-believe.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no hope.

There is! Elect moderate Dems instead of insane leftists who live in the land of make-believe.

The people on our school board seem fairly moderate. Nevertheless, the latest educational fads embraced by the CO seem unhelpful like the way they define equity as removing opportunities for advanced students to reduce the achievement gap.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

This is true, but funny how many “progressives” (or folks that want to signal as much) hold their own children to much higher standards.

Exactly. And most wait until their kids graduate HS before they start trying to destroy school systems with ridiculous convepts like equity, restorative justice anti-racism, etc.

It's not the civilians. It's DCPS that talks more about equity, restorative justice, anti-racism, etc. than academics.

Here in MoCo we have a group called the commie mommies who push this stuff and well as putting porn in schools and males in girls bathrooms, locker rooms, and on their sports teams. They are civilians, PTA leaders, etc.

MoCo has disgusting POSs like this? I assumed only VA had them because of its redneck roots.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no hope.

There is! Elect moderate Dems instead of insane leftists who live in the land of make-believe.

The people on our school board seem fairly moderate. Nevertheless, the latest educational fads embraced by the CO seem unhelpful like the way they define equity as removing opportunities for advanced students to reduce the achievement gap.

Our BOE in MoCo is a blend of normal Democrats and works who convince, dupe, or shame the normal Dems into supporting far-left policies like you mentioned.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid took algebra 1 in 9th grade. He took it in public MS, got an A, and then didn’t test out of it when he switched to a Catholic HS. He ended up in pre-calc in 12th grade. Not sure why the OP mentioned that students in this track would only get to algebra 2. He was required to take math all four years. He’s in college now and is doing well.

It sounds like you don't prioritize math since you picked a private school with a slow math track. That's fine and your choice. We are talking about what public schools should offer. It's not uncommon for people to want their kids to get to Calc in college. I was a science major and it was an advantage in what freshman science classes I could take.

He did take calculus in college. You can still take calculus in college being on the "slow" math track in HS. The "slow" HS math track exists in public schools too. This area is full of strivers who can't stand for their kids to not be on an advanced track for everything. No wonder there are so many grumpy, nasty people in this area.

Hah that you suddenly went to name-calling "grumpy, nasty" and "strivers."

I think that PP meant getting to Calc before college. A lot take it junior or senior year of HS, coming into college ready for more serious science (and math) classes, if that's important to them.

I don’t understand why US culture likes to judge people who want to advance and work hard. Sure, some strivers are nasty and judgmental and that’s on them, but the word “striver” itself shouldn’t be a pejorative.

We should be applauding people who want to work hard and be their best.

It's not US culture. It's progressives. They want equity which is everyone equal in the end. This means no one can be advanced or strive for more...just like communism.

This is true, but funny how many “progressives” (or folks that want to signal as much) hold their own children to much higher standards.

Exactly. And most wait until their kids graduate HS before they start trying to destroy school systems with ridiculous convepts like equity, restorative justice anti-racism, etc.

It's not the civilians. It's DCPS that talks more about equity, restorative justice, anti-racism, etc. than academics.

Here in MoCo we have a group called the commie mommies who push this stuff and well as putting porn in schools and males in girls bathrooms, locker rooms, and on their sports teams. They are civilians, PTA leaders, etc.

MoCo has disgusting POSs like this? I assumed only VA had them because of its redneck roots.

What?