| Not true. If you do a math degree, say, at Harvard, MIT or Princeton you're not learning "the same math" as a student at Penn State or Ohio State. The material is more advanced and the students are better. |
This exactly |
This is also how I see it. School itself is irrelevant. |
Please cite your source(s). What is the more advanced math material that students at Penn State or Ohio State are missing out on? |
| I guess you've never heard of Math 55. It wouldn't make sense to offer it at Penn State or Ohio State - probably one student a decade that could get through a course like that. |
You’re correct, I’ve never heard of it. Looking it up it would appear as though it’s not actually required for an undergraduate math degree at Harvard, and a significant number of these elite Harvard math students can’t get through it either. So barring completely optional accelerated courses, what other math courses are these little geniuses of Harvard required to take that students at Penn State and Ohio State are missing out on (because according to you they’re too dumb to understand anyway)? |
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On paper, the math major course sequence may seem superficially identical. But at a place like Harvard or MIT, a lot of students will have a lot of course work under their belt (multivariable calculus, differential equations, probability, linear algebra). Many take graduate courses while an undergraduate.
The atmosphere is fundamentally different. You have top students learning from top professors. Students are super-motivated to take on a lot of hard material fast. That's a norm, not a rare exception. |
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What about people with MDs, JDs and PhDs from Harvard, Yale, etc who go on to suffer a stroke, dementia, etc?
Highly educated or....no longer?
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So just as I suspected - you actually have absolutely no idea how to directly compare the rigor of various undergraduate degree programs at elite universities versus those awful public schools attended by the poors. |
| Never said awful. But there's a few world-renowned universities that attract the truly exceptional which raises the standard. |
You’d be surprised. How many people remember which country the bridge was where the assassination took place that started WW1 ? |
They aren’t equal in their skills as doctors but the Arkansas doctor might be well rounded and better educated than the neurosurgeon. |