Glenn Youngkin's Policies cost schools across VA $202 Million

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


Still criticizing FCPS for a mistake by Richmond...


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I love the word "bummer" as if it's this is some accident rather than basic governing incompetence by people. Why were there not more checks in place on something as basic as allocating budgets? This is not a disagreement about policies where you say one is bloated or whatever--it's basic, basic accounting at the STATE level. State budgets are something that gets checked all the way up the ladder, so SO many people had to not be good at their jobs for this to happen.

Anyway, if you noticed, many posters note that this hurts the rural schools a lot more--1) because they've built their planning on what Youngkin told them they could and now have to spend again on re-planning but with less money -- planning is expensive--you need accountants/budget analysts etc. 2) their margins are much smaller because they have fewer students, 3) The amount lost by the NoVA districts impacts these districts twice because NoVA subsidizes the rest of the state--so they are double hit --they have their own lower recalcuated budget, and then the recalculation of the NoVA subsidy that adds to their lower budget

Rural districts were already hurting because their school age population is really spread out and declining and schools are funded on a per pupil basis--this is just really bad for them.


The Democrats representing Fairfax have complained about NoVa subsidizing RoVa for decades. Fake concern.


Why is it fake? The LCI chart very clearly shows what the state is paying to each jurisdiction and taxes coming into the state from each jurisdiction are also very easily accounted for. The bank of Fairfax meme exists for a reason. If they don't want the money, Fairfax will be happy to have it back. All education funding decisions have been made because of complaints by ROVA that they need more money.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/99540/school_district_funding_in_virginia_0.pdf
https://www.vml.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Local%20Composite%20Index.pdf


It's fake because it's the Democrats who've lobbied intensely for NoVa to keep more of its tax dollars who are now suddenly so worried about the impact of fewer of those tax dollars ending up in rural schools due to this budgeting error.

They are concerned, but not with rural schools getting less money. They are concerned that Youngkin has an approval rating in VA that's much higher than Joe Biden's.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


Still criticizing FCPS for a mistake by Richmond...


+1
I love the word "bummer" as if it's this is some accident rather than basic governing incompetence by people. Why were there not more checks in place on something as basic as allocating budgets? This is not a disagreement about policies where you say one is bloated or whatever--it's basic, basic accounting at the STATE level. State budgets are something that gets checked all the way up the ladder, so SO many people had to not be good at their jobs for this to happen.

Anyway, if you noticed, many posters note that this hurts the rural schools a lot more--1) because they've built their planning on what Youngkin told them they could and now have to spend again on re-planning but with less money -- planning is expensive--you need accountants/budget analysts etc. 2) their margins are much smaller because they have fewer students, 3) The amount lost by the NoVA districts impacts these districts twice because NoVA subsidizes the rest of the state--so they are double hit --they have their own lower recalcuated budget, and then the recalculation of the NoVA subsidy that adds to their lower budget

Rural districts were already hurting because their school age population is really spread out and declining and schools are funded on a per pupil basis--this is just really bad for them.


The Democrats representing Fairfax have complained about NoVa subsidizing RoVa for decades. Fake concern.


Why is it fake? The LCI chart very clearly shows what the state is paying to each jurisdiction and taxes coming into the state from each jurisdiction are also very easily accounted for. The bank of Fairfax meme exists for a reason. If they don't want the money, Fairfax will be happy to have it back. All education funding decisions have been made because of complaints by ROVA that they need more money.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/99540/school_district_funding_in_virginia_0.pdf
https://www.vml.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Local%20Composite%20Index.pdf


It's fake because it's the Democrats who've lobbied intensely for NoVa to keep more of its tax dollars who are now suddenly so worried about the impact of fewer of those tax dollars ending up in rural schools due to this budgeting error.

They are concerned, but not with rural schools getting less money. They are concerned that Youngkin has an approval rating in VA that's much higher than Joe Biden's.


Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Youngkin can't be re-elected as VA governor and has no chance to become Republican presidential candidate. I'm a democrat and deeply care about our whole state's--and nation's--education system and as a citizen I care about solid governance. I'm not in some political horserace--I care about the things I care about.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


Still criticizing FCPS for a mistake by Richmond...


+1
I love the word "bummer" as if it's this is some accident rather than basic governing incompetence by people. Why were there not more checks in place on something as basic as allocating budgets? This is not a disagreement about policies where you say one is bloated or whatever--it's basic, basic accounting at the STATE level. State budgets are something that gets checked all the way up the ladder, so SO many people had to not be good at their jobs for this to happen.

Anyway, if you noticed, many posters note that this hurts the rural schools a lot more--1) because they've built their planning on what Youngkin told them they could and now have to spend again on re-planning but with less money -- planning is expensive--you need accountants/budget analysts etc. 2) their margins are much smaller because they have fewer students, 3) The amount lost by the NoVA districts impacts these districts twice because NoVA subsidizes the rest of the state--so they are double hit --they have their own lower recalcuated budget, and then the recalculation of the NoVA subsidy that adds to their lower budget

Rural districts were already hurting because their school age population is really spread out and declining and schools are funded on a per pupil basis--this is just really bad for them.


The Democrats representing Fairfax have complained about NoVa subsidizing RoVa for decades. Fake concern.


Why is it fake? The LCI chart very clearly shows what the state is paying to each jurisdiction and taxes coming into the state from each jurisdiction are also very easily accounted for. The bank of Fairfax meme exists for a reason. If they don't want the money, Fairfax will be happy to have it back. All education funding decisions have been made because of complaints by ROVA that they need more money.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/99540/school_district_funding_in_virginia_0.pdf
https://www.vml.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Local%20Composite%20Index.pdf


It's fake because it's the Democrats who've lobbied intensely for NoVa to keep more of its tax dollars who are now suddenly so worried about the impact of fewer of those tax dollars ending up in rural schools due to this budgeting error.

They are concerned, but not with rural schools getting less money. They are concerned that Youngkin has an approval rating in VA that's much higher than Joe Biden's.


Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Youngkin can't be re-elected as VA governor and has no chance to become Republican presidential candidate. I'm a democrat and deeply care about our whole state's--and nation's--education system and as a citizen I care about solid governance. I'm not in some political horserace--I care about the things I care about.


There are tons of Fairfax Democrats who are milking this for everything it's worth in more in an effort to influence local and state elections later this year.

Like you, I care about solid governance, and local Democrats used to be all about solid governance and the good delivery of services. They've lost their way, particularly in FCPS. Crocodile tears about how this budgeting mishap is going to affect schools in SW Virginia isn't going to change the fact that many of us want to replace those responsible for the poor management of FCPS and the extremely poor coordination between FCPS and the Board of Supervisors under the Democratic hegemony.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't even understand cutting grocery taxes. Did anyone even care about that?! Everyone I know would vote for cutting car tax though. That's a ridiculous and expensive hassle. A lot of people are registering in other states instead to dodge the tax and it's also preventing people from buying newer cars (it did for dh and I!)


State and local governments in Virginia are still reeling from the impacts of Gilmore's "No Car Tax," which messed up the state budget for a decade and put a strain on localities, especially in Northern Virginia.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


The money spent on equity consultants is not a waste. It’s to prevent your children from growing up holding the same anti-American viewpoints you express here.


The equity consultants are very anti American and often promote racism. They are a complete waste of money.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


Still criticizing FCPS for a mistake by Richmond...


+1
I love the word "bummer" as if it's this is some accident rather than basic governing incompetence by people. Why were there not more checks in place on something as basic as allocating budgets? This is not a disagreement about policies where you say one is bloated or whatever--it's basic, basic accounting at the STATE level. State budgets are something that gets checked all the way up the ladder, so SO many people had to not be good at their jobs for this to happen.

Anyway, if you noticed, many posters note that this hurts the rural schools a lot more--1) because they've built their planning on what Youngkin told them they could and now have to spend again on re-planning but with less money -- planning is expensive--you need accountants/budget analysts etc. 2) their margins are much smaller because they have fewer students, 3) The amount lost by the NoVA districts impacts these districts twice because NoVA subsidizes the rest of the state--so they are double hit --they have their own lower recalcuated budget, and then the recalculation of the NoVA subsidy that adds to their lower budget

Rural districts were already hurting because their school age population is really spread out and declining and schools are funded on a per pupil basis--this is just really bad for them.


The Democrats representing Fairfax have complained about NoVa subsidizing RoVa for decades. Fake concern.


Why is it fake? The LCI chart very clearly shows what the state is paying to each jurisdiction and taxes coming into the state from each jurisdiction are also very easily accounted for. The bank of Fairfax meme exists for a reason. If they don't want the money, Fairfax will be happy to have it back. All education funding decisions have been made because of complaints by ROVA that they need more money.

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/99540/school_district_funding_in_virginia_0.pdf
https://www.vml.org/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Local%20Composite%20Index.pdf


It's fake because it's the Democrats who've lobbied intensely for NoVa to keep more of its tax dollars who are now suddenly so worried about the impact of fewer of those tax dollars ending up in rural schools due to this budgeting error.

They are concerned, but not with rural schools getting less money. They are concerned that Youngkin has an approval rating in VA that's much higher than Joe Biden's.


Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Youngkin can't be re-elected as VA governor and has no chance to become Republican presidential candidate. I'm a democrat and deeply care about our whole state's--and nation's--education system and as a citizen I care about solid governance. I'm not in some political horserace--I care about the things I care about.


There are tons of Fairfax Democrats who are milking this for everything it's worth in more in an effort to influence local and state elections later this year.

Like you, I care about solid governance, and local Democrats used to be all about solid governance and the good delivery of services. They've lost their way, particularly in FCPS. Crocodile tears about how this budgeting mishap is going to affect schools in SW Virginia isn't going to change the fact that many of us want to replace those responsible for the poor management of FCPS and the extremely poor coordination between FCPS and the Board of Supervisors under the Democratic hegemony.


You are mixing local and state politics. State politics aren't that affected by who is elected to a school board in Fairfax County. Political games from parties are what they are. They go both ways and are easy enough to ignore. The state will be decided by the entire state, not who gets elected to the FCPS school board. Very weird analysis there.
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I think what you are trying to say is that Fairfax democrats are trying to influence the FCPS school board election with this news. Well sure they are. But that would be expected if the other party made a large monetary mishap. Again it works both ways. Youngkin is on about Fairfax County nearly every month about something despite the fact that much of the entire state missed sending out merit finalist memos and other minor infractions. He seemed to miss the memo that other jurisdictions had few to no national merit finalists.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


The money spent on equity consultants is not a waste. It’s to prevent your children from growing up holding the same anti-American viewpoints you express here.


The equity consultants are very anti American and often promote racism. They are a complete waste of money.


Complete opposite, moron. Equity is a fundamentally American concept — it’s right there in the Declaration of Independence. Only people who hate America and its melting pot ethos find any objections to it. They are also anti-Christian and will burn in Hell for their beliefs.
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I am glad they got rid of the regressive tax, but they should have made up for it elsewhere.
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It was the antipathy towards Trump that gave FCPS a 12-0 Democratic School Board in 2019 and dissatisfaction with local School Boards, including the FCPS School Board, that helped get Youngkin elected. So obviously the feelings that people have towards national politicians can affect local elections, the feelings that people have towards local officials can affect state elections, and so on.

Right now there are lots of proxy fights with both parties trying to milk events to improve their odds in the state and local elections in Virginia this fall. We saw it with the brouhaha over notifying NMSF commended students of their awards, and we're seeing now with this accounting error.

And in each case the partisans are exaggerating the significance of the events - not getting notified of commended status is not going to have a big impact on where a kids gets into college, and this $202 million is an accounting error and not like Youngkin's administration somehow invested $202M in crypto assets that went bust. When allocated across school divisions, it's a small amount of money that districts thought they would be getting from the state that they will not receive. In the case of FCPS, with its $3.5B budget, the amount involved is clearly immaterial. If FCPS can adjust when the county supervisors don't give them all the money they've requested, they can and will deal with this as well. And it's certainly not going to make some of us forget the far worse incompetence and neglect that FCPS has displayed towards schools in our neighborhoods - a product of a terrible School Board composed of political hacks who've down far more in their time in office than Youngkin ever will to drive people out of the public schools due to their incompetence and neglect.



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Anonymous wrote:It’s a bummer but it will be spread across the entire state and the FCPS budget alone is $3.5 billion. And perhaps the need for cuts will fall attention to some of the unnecessary fat in FCPS, which wastes tons of money on central administration and third-party “equity” consultants who serve no useful purpose other than to allow School board members to claim they care about equity when in fact you have members like Tholen and Corbett Sanders who’ve spent their entire time in office protecting their own wealthier neighborhoods.


The money spent on equity consultants is not a waste. It’s to prevent your children from growing up holding the same anti-American viewpoints you express here.


The equity consultants are very anti American and often promote racism. They are a complete waste of money.


White/proxy supremacists hate equity.
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Anonymous wrote:It was the antipathy towards Trump that gave FCPS a 12-0 Democratic School Board in 2019 and dissatisfaction with local School Boards, including the FCPS School Board, that helped get Youngkin elected. So obviously the feelings that people have towards national politicians can affect local elections, the feelings that people have towards local officials can affect state elections, and so on.

Right now there are lots of proxy fights with both parties trying to milk events to improve their odds in the state and local elections in Virginia this fall. We saw it with the brouhaha over notifying NMSF commended students of their awards, and we're seeing now with this accounting error.

And in each case the partisans are exaggerating the significance of the events - not getting notified of commended status is not going to have a big impact on where a kids gets into college, and this $202 million is an accounting error and not like Youngkin's administration somehow invested $202M in crypto assets that went bust. When allocated across school divisions, it's a small amount of money that districts thought they would be getting from the state that they will not receive. In the case of FCPS, with its $3.5B budget, the amount involved is clearly immaterial. If FCPS can adjust when the county supervisors don't give them all the money they've requested, they can and will deal with this as well. And it's certainly not going to make some of us forget the far worse incompetence and neglect that FCPS has displayed towards schools in our neighborhoods - a product of a terrible School Board composed of political hacks who've down far more in their time in office than Youngkin ever will to drive people out of the public schools due to their incompetence and neglect.





It’s not a small error at all and I do think this was purposefully hidden to not say they were cutting budgets to schools. They played this to look like an accounting error but no way was over $200 million not discovered with all the monetary checks and balances. You can’t even get a $100,000 state bill through appropriations.
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This accounting error is much bigger than some students not getting notified of their commended status on a psat test
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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin cut taxes on grocery bills, but neglected to remove that money from the calculators provided to schools to help them estimate their budgets for the coming years -- they were off by $202 Million. That's how much less Virginia students will be getting because of his idiotic policies (and that's just the one they forgot to include in their calculator).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/31/virginia-schools-state-aid-error/


Too busy investigating ridiculous PSAT awards. So what's 202 M when some kids didn't get a trophy for a PSAT that no college other than Liberty U cares about.
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Anonymous wrote:If you don’t find fault with the Youngkin administration for this, you are a partisan hack. Period.


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You can agree with his politics, but not his incompetence.


It’s not incompetence- it’s an intentional first step towards dismantling public education and selling off the parts to his donors and buddies.

What is incompetence is him thinking that he’s going to out-Trump Trump and Desantis.


Republicans are so dumb.
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