Bike lanes violate disability access laws, new lawsuit says

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Metropolitan DC Local Politics forum is a handful of cranky rich NW republican bike haters who don't represent the will or majority opinion of the people of DC whatsoever.

They only post here because they have no outlet and are constantly frustrated that the will of the majority goes against what they want. They can just move, they are rich enough to easily.

Wanting disabled to be able to access their community without risking being run over is not solely a republican desire. I'm as liberal as they come, and somehow still value my loved ones safety.

And wanting to be able to navigate the city safely without a car is not a desire exclusive to "bike bros" or whatever is the pejorative-du-DCUM-jour.

As much as NDD and others love to project, "bike lanes" aren't just for bikes and are every bit as useful for electric-powered wheelchairs or other wheel-based mobility aids.

There are also very clear guidelines - referenced on page 3 of this thread - of how "bike lanes" can be designed to be fully compliant with the ADA and enable disabled people to alight from their vehicles and reach the curb without conflicting with passing micro-mobility devices.

In all seriousness, the NW NIMBY playbook is so very tired at this point and trying to exploit the concerns of disabled people and play on racial politics to mask their own crazed obsession with RPP privileges is as pathetic as it gets.

Bikers are almost entirely white. The disabled people whose lives are being put at risk as mostly black. But, sure, "racial politics."

[Anonymous]

This is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Metropolitan DC Local Politics forum is a handful of cranky rich NW republican bike haters who don't represent the will or majority opinion of the people of DC whatsoever.

They only post here because they have no outlet and are constantly frustrated that the will of the majority goes against what they want. They can just move, they are rich enough to easily.

Wanting disabled to be able to access their community without risking being run over is not solely a republican desire. I'm as liberal as they come, and somehow still value my loved ones safety.

And wanting to be able to navigate the city safely without a car is not a desire exclusive to "bike bros" or whatever is the pejorative-du-DCUM-jour.

As much as NDD and others love to project, "bike lanes" aren't just for bikes and are every bit as useful for electric-powered wheelchairs or other wheel-based mobility aids.

There are also very clear guidelines - referenced on page 3 of this thread - of how "bike lanes" can be designed to be fully compliant with the ADA and enable disabled people to alight from their vehicles and reach the curb without conflicting with passing micro-mobility devices.

In all seriousness, the NW NIMBY playbook is so very tired at this point and trying to exploit the concerns of disabled people and play on racial politics to mask their own crazed obsession with RPP privileges is as pathetic as it gets.

Bikers are almost entirely white. The disabled people whose lives are being put at risk as mostly black. But, sure, "racial politics."

This is total nonsense. Spend any time in downtown DC and you will see plenty of black cyclists of all ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Metropolitan DC Local Politics forum is a handful of cranky rich NW republican bike haters who don't represent the will or majority opinion of the people of DC whatsoever.

They only post here because they have no outlet and are constantly frustrated that the will of the majority goes against what they want. They can just move, they are rich enough to easily.

Wanting disabled to be able to access their community without risking being run over is not solely a republican desire. I'm as liberal as they come, and somehow still value my loved ones safety.

And wanting to be able to navigate the city safely without a car is not a desire exclusive to "bike bros" or whatever is the pejorative-du-DCUM-jour.

As much as NDD and others love to project, "bike lanes" aren't just for bikes and are every bit as useful for electric-powered wheelchairs or other wheel-based mobility aids.

There are also very clear guidelines - referenced on page 3 of this thread - of how "bike lanes" can be designed to be fully compliant with the ADA and enable disabled people to alight from their vehicles and reach the curb without conflicting with passing micro-mobility devices.

In all seriousness, the NW NIMBY playbook is so very tired at this point and trying to exploit the concerns of disabled people and play on racial politics to mask their own crazed obsession with RPP privileges is as pathetic as it gets.

Bikers are almost entirely white. The disabled people whose lives are being put at risk as mostly black. But, sure, "racial politics."

Tell us what ward you live in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So basically the whites — more of them — should prevail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So basically the whites — more of them — should prevail.

If you are inclined to take anything written in this lawsuit at face value, I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Per the lawsuit:

12 percent of DC residents have mobility disabilities
Three-quarters of them are African American
One third of them are over the age of 65

Bicyclists five times more likely to be white than Black
Bicyclists predominantly male, white, 25-40, higher income

So basically the whites — more of them — should prevail.

If you are inclined to take anything written in this lawsuit at face value, I feel sorry for you.

I am just taking things to absurdist extremes since the lawsuit is absurd and arrogant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Metropolitan DC Local Politics forum is a handful of cranky rich NW republican bike haters who don't represent the will or majority opinion of the people of DC whatsoever.

They only post here because they have no outlet and are constantly frustrated that the will of the majority goes against what they want. They can just move, they are rich enough to easily.

Wanting disabled to be able to access their community without risking being run over is not solely a republican desire. I'm as liberal as they come, and somehow still value my loved ones safety.

And wanting to be able to navigate the city safely without a car is not a desire exclusive to "bike bros" or whatever is the pejorative-du-DCUM-jour.

As much as NDD and others love to project, "bike lanes" aren't just for bikes and are every bit as useful for electric-powered wheelchairs or other wheel-based mobility aids.

There are also very clear guidelines - referenced on page 3 of this thread - of how "bike lanes" can be designed to be fully compliant with the ADA and enable disabled people to alight from their vehicles and reach the curb without conflicting with passing micro-mobility devices.

In all seriousness, the NW NIMBY playbook is so very tired at this point and trying to exploit the concerns of disabled people and play on racial politics to mask their own crazed obsession with RPP privileges is as pathetic as it gets.

Bikers are almost entirely white. The disabled people whose lives are being put at risk as mostly black. But, sure, "racial politics."

Bikers in Ward 3 are almost entirely white. That is because Ward 3 is almost entirely white. If you get out of your Ward 3 bubble, you will see cyclists of all shapes and colors. Imagine that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire Metropolitan DC Local Politics forum is a handful of cranky rich NW republican bike haters who don't represent the will or majority opinion of the people of DC whatsoever.

They only post here because they have no outlet and are constantly frustrated that the will of the majority goes against what they want. They can just move, they are rich enough to easily.

Wanting disabled to be able to access their community without risking being run over is not solely a republican desire. I'm as liberal as they come, and somehow still value my loved ones safety.

And wanting to be able to navigate the city safely without a car is not a desire exclusive to "bike bros" or whatever is the pejorative-du-DCUM-jour.

As much as NDD and others love to project, "bike lanes" aren't just for bikes and are every bit as useful for electric-powered wheelchairs or other wheel-based mobility aids.

There are also very clear guidelines - referenced on page 3 of this thread - of how "bike lanes" can be designed to be fully compliant with the ADA and enable disabled people to alight from their vehicles and reach the curb without conflicting with passing micro-mobility devices.

In all seriousness, the NW NIMBY playbook is so very tired at this point and trying to exploit the concerns of disabled people and play on racial politics to mask their own crazed obsession with RPP privileges is as pathetic as it gets.

Bikers are almost entirely white. The disabled people whose lives are being put at risk as mostly black. But, sure, "racial politics."

Bikers in Ward 3 are almost entirely white. That is because Ward 3 is almost entirely white. If you get out of your Ward 3 bubble, you will see cyclists of all shapes and colors. Imagine that.

+1. TELL US WHAT WARD YOU LIVE IN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lot of hostility on this thread towards disabled people.

Try being a cyclist . . .

Sorry, no, this is ridiculous. Cyclists face a fraction, at best, of the hostility that disabled people do on a regular basis. And if you don't want to face hostility as a cyclist, you can just... get off your bike.

I bicycle all over the place and commute by bike far, far more often than I drive to work, but this comparison is (a) false, (b) inappropriately dismissive of what it's like to have a disability, and (c) also completely unhelpful for the pro-bike infrastructure argument.

There's a smart way to put in bike lanes that accommodates people with mobility issues, who in theory should be better off if the streets are designed better to allow uses besides only driving in cars. D.C. can figure it out and fix it moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lot of hostility on this thread towards disabled people.

Try being a cyclist . . .

Sorry, no, this is ridiculous. Cyclists face a fraction, at best, of the hostility that disabled people do on a regular basis. And if you don't want to face hostility as a cyclist, you can just... get off your bike.

I bicycle all over the place and commute by bike far, far more often than I drive to work, but this comparison is (a) false, (b) inappropriately dismissive of what it's like to have a disability, and (c) also completely unhelpful for the pro-bike infrastructure argument.

There's a smart way to put in bike lanes that accommodates people with mobility issues, who in theory should be better off if the streets are designed better to allow uses besides only driving in cars. D.C. can figure it out and fix it moving forward.

+1

[Anonymous]

Bicyclists in DC are SO MEAN. The most road rage Ive seen in DC is from cyclists to drivers (I am a pedestrian--no wheels for me)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lot of hostility on this thread towards disabled people.

Try being a cyclist . . .

Sorry, no, this is ridiculous. Cyclists face a fraction, at best, of the hostility that disabled people do on a regular basis. And if you don't want to face hostility as a cyclist, you can just... get off your bike.

I bicycle all over the place and commute by bike far, far more often than I drive to work, but this comparison is (a) false, (b) inappropriately dismissive of what it's like to have a disability, and (c) also completely unhelpful for the pro-bike infrastructure argument.

There's a smart way to put in bike lanes that accommodates people with mobility issues, who in theory should be better off if the streets are designed better to allow uses besides only driving in cars. D.C. can figure it out and fix it moving forward.

Good job creating a strawman. The reply was specifically responding to a post about hostility in this thread. I’ve read none directed towards people with disabilities. Whereas virtually every second post here is spreading some ridiculous nonsense about cyclists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The point is, the same people opposing the bike lanes and complaining about the racial lens the ANC is about to consider, want to use the same racial lens to potentially fight the bike lanes.

What is the "racial lens that the ANC is about to consider"?

Cycling is the whitest thing ever. Seriously, name something whiter.

Posting against bike lanes on DCUM

I LOLed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bicyclists in DC are SO MEAN. The most road rage Ive seen in DC is from cyclists to drivers (I am a pedestrian--no wheels for me)

Anyone - cyclist, pedestrian, driver whatever - whose life is nearly ended through the recklessness of another has every right to be pissed off at that person. Some cyclists may be mean, but it’s also true that drivers kill.