Can someone explain to me “homeless” vs “unhoused”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Also we can’t say “overweight person”. It is now person with a large body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Also we can’t say “overweight person”. It is now person with a large body.

No, it's fat, grossly overweight, morbidly obese/obscenely obese or bbw.

Also it will always be pedo or pedophile.

Looter isn't going away. What do we call it? Criminal? Thug?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Also we can’t say “overweight person”. It is now person with a large body.

No, it's fat, grossly overweight, morbidly obese/obscenely obese or bbw.

Also it will always be pedo or pedophile.

Looter isn't going away. What do we call it? Criminal? Thug?

Black Lives Matter activist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you asked a homeless person if they are unhoused they probably wouldn't have the intellectual capacity to understand it's the new term for homeless, and probably answer no.

Just like if you housed them in St. Elizabeth's, they wouldn't know the difference between there and an apartment.

The prefix un and suffix less mean the same. House and home have the same meaning. It's that simple. Unhoused is the same as homeless.

I can't imagine a homeless person using unhoused in a sentence.

Seriously it sounds like you do not know many homeless/ unhoused people. I have. Many of them are brilliant. There are many homeless/ unhoused people now due to real estate affordable home crisis, being homeless could happen to anyone.

If they were brilliant they’d be able to make rent.

Drugs, alcohol and mental problems are why they are that way

See you have not met and talked with them …


Through volunteering at programs to help people in transition out of homelessness, I have met:
A very bright and ambitious Homeless single mother who had been a corporate hot shot but had an extremely difficult pregnancy, could not work or even stand, lost her medical insurance and then excessive medical bills resulted in her losing her home. She is on her feet again now but it took a long time when you have a baby and health challenges;
Former military vets who found it hard to adjust to civilian life after serving in wars where they saw and participated in horrific violence;
Many children who work hard to keep up with school work despite not having a permanent address;
Many single mothers and several single fathers who work hard to create more promising futures for their children. It is very hard to take care of young children, work enough hours to pay bills, and hold down jobs as single parents of young children.

Many of them love animals and miss having pets.

When I meet homeless/ unhoused people, I strongly believe there but for the grace of God go I. They are people with feelings, dreams and challenges just like the rest of us housed people.

Many are schizophrenic and tell tall tales.

Really a corporate hotshot with no savings, no family and no friends

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you asked a homeless person if they are unhoused they probably wouldn't have the intellectual capacity to understand it's the new term for homeless, and probably answer no.

Just like if you housed them in St. Elizabeth's, they wouldn't know the difference between there and an apartment.

The prefix un and suffix less mean the same. House and home have the same meaning. It's that simple. Unhoused is the same as homeless.

I can't imagine a homeless person using unhoused in a sentence.

Seriously it sounds like you do not know many homeless/ unhoused people. I have. Many of them are brilliant. There are many homeless/ unhoused people now due to real estate affordable home crisis, being homeless could happen to anyone.

If they were brilliant they’d be able to make rent.

Drugs, alcohol and mental problems are why they are that way

See you have not met and talked with them …


Through volunteering at programs to help people in transition out of homelessness, I have met:
A very bright and ambitious Homeless single mother who had been a corporate hot shot but had an extremely difficult pregnancy, could not work or even stand, lost her medical insurance and then excessive medical bills resulted in her losing her home. She is on her feet again now but it took a long time when you have a baby and health challenges;
Former military vets who found it hard to adjust to civilian life after serving in wars where they saw and participated in horrific violence;
Many children who work hard to keep up with school work despite not having a permanent address;
Many single mothers and several single fathers who work hard to create more promising futures for their children. It is very hard to take care of young children, work enough hours to pay bills, and hold down jobs as single parents of young children.

Many of them love animals and miss having pets.

When I meet homeless/ unhoused people, I strongly believe there but for the grace of God go I. They are people with feelings, dreams and challenges just like the rest of us housed people.

Many are schizophrenic and tell tall tales.

Really a corporate hotshot with no savings, no family and no friends

You are treating them like stereo types - they are people. Plenty of houses people have mental illnesses and substance abuse problems.

The biggest subgroup of homeless / Unhoused people are children. Another big sub group is returned veterans who served active duty in one of the wars the size has been in for twenty years until recently.

Have you ever had massive hospital bills after you lost your job due to illness or had to care for a loved with terminal illness? The bills are astronomical and eat through savings quickly.

There is a housing and eviction crisis in US big cities.

These are fellow humans you are dismissing so easily. Safe Housing should be a basic human right in wealthy, civilized countries .it is better for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

You're nuts and need to be deprogrammed from your addiction to rightwing outrage media. Sir, step away from the podcast and Substack....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Also we can’t say “overweight person”. It is now person with a large body.

We just say “fat people.” I’m done with “political correctness.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Also we can’t say “overweight person”. It is now person with a large body.

We just say “fat people.” I’m done with “political correctness.”

I bet nice, respectful people trigger you all day long. What's it like to lead such an anger-filled life?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Homeless implies the individual did or didn't do something that resulted in their not having a home.

Unhoused implies that society did or didn't do something that resulted in the individual not having a home.

How you approach solving a problem depends on how you define the problem.

This. I would also add that homeless seems more like a permanent trait of a person, whereas unhoused is more of a situation that the person is in, which can be changed. The language is more growth-minded.

Looks like this thread gets derailed, but wanted to thank both these posters for explaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Except you can say literally those things. I'm serious.

Here's the NIMH using the term "eating disorder": https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/eating-disorders. Here's CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/health/eating-disorders-children-covid-wellness/index.html. Here's the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/well/family/teens-eating-disorders.html

Here's "looting" in the NYT (in an article that's very leftist): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/opinion/george-floyd-protests-looting.html Here's NPR: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/901219045/chicago-authorities-aim-to-prevent-another-night-of-looting. Here's Joe Biden using the word: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/joe-biden-pittsburgh-violence-speech/index.html

"Minor attracted person" is very rare (it's basically a term invented by one person who promptly got forced out of their position for it), and even in discussing it, the media uses the term "pedophile" and "pedophilia": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/virginia-college-professor-set-off-firestorm-about-pedophilia/

Here's NPR saying "minority" last year: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033727595/attacks-on-minorities-are-at-their-highest-level-in-12-years-fbi-reports. Here's the NYT a couple years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

That's from a few minutes Googling. All the terms you're convinced you "can't say" and they're all over the mainstream media including from voices on the left. You seem to be mistaking the fact that possibly someone somewhere will object to a term to it being forbidden. It's not. You just have to deal with the fact that people might be object.

I said this upthread, but I say homeless, and I work with this population. I have reasons I say homeless and I'm confident in my choice. I also don't care that other people say unhoused and if someone objected I could explain my reasons, and I'd be happy to discuss it with them. My language isn't controlled by other people's objections and neither is yours, why do you pretend like it is?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Except you can say literally those things. I'm serious.

Here's the NIMH using the term "eating disorder": https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/eating-disorders. Here's CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/health/eating-disorders-children-covid-wellness/index.html. Here's the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/well/family/teens-eating-disorders.html

Here's "looting" in the NYT (in an article that's very leftist): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/opinion/george-floyd-protests-looting.html Here's NPR: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/901219045/chicago-authorities-aim-to-prevent-another-night-of-looting. Here's Joe Biden using the word: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/joe-biden-pittsburgh-violence-speech/index.html

"Minor attracted person" is very rare (it's basically a term invented by one person who promptly got forced out of their position for it), and even in discussing it, the media uses the term "pedophile" and "pedophilia": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/virginia-college-professor-set-off-firestorm-about-pedophilia/

Here's NPR saying "minority" last year: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033727595/attacks-on-minorities-are-at-their-highest-level-in-12-years-fbi-reports. Here's the NYT a couple years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

That's from a few minutes Googling. All the terms you're convinced you "can't say" and they're all over the mainstream media including from voices on the left. You seem to be mistaking the fact that possibly someone somewhere will object to a term to it being forbidden. It's not. You just have to deal with the fact that people might be object.

I said this upthread, but I say homeless, and I work with this population. I have reasons I say homeless and I'm confident in my choice. I also don't care that other people say unhoused and if someone objected I could explain my reasons, and I'd be happy to discuss it with them. My language isn't controlled by other people's objections and neither is yours, why do you pretend like it is?

Because their objective to make people feel like they are under attack by...someone...and in reaction pull a vote for Republicans. That's literally their entire MO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Except you can say literally those things. I'm serious.

Here's the NIMH using the term "eating disorder": https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/eating-disorders. Here's CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/health/eating-disorders-children-covid-wellness/index.html. Here's the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/well/family/teens-eating-disorders.html

Here's "looting" in the NYT (in an article that's very leftist): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/opinion/george-floyd-protests-looting.html Here's NPR: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/901219045/chicago-authorities-aim-to-prevent-another-night-of-looting. Here's Joe Biden using the word: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/joe-biden-pittsburgh-violence-speech/index.html

"Minor attracted person" is very rare (it's basically a term invented by one person who promptly got forced out of their position for it), and even in discussing it, the media uses the term "pedophile" and "pedophilia": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/virginia-college-professor-set-off-firestorm-about-pedophilia/

Here's NPR saying "minority" last year: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033727595/attacks-on-minorities-are-at-their-highest-level-in-12-years-fbi-reports. Here's the NYT a couple years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

That's from a few minutes Googling. All the terms you're convinced you "can't say" and they're all over the mainstream media including from voices on the left. You seem to be mistaking the fact that possibly someone somewhere will object to a term to it being forbidden. It's not. You just have to deal with the fact that people might be object.

I said this upthread, but I say homeless, and I work with this population. I have reasons I say homeless and I'm confident in my choice. I also don't care that other people say unhoused and if someone objected I could explain my reasons, and I'd be happy to discuss it with them. My language isn't controlled by other people's objections and neither is yours, why do you pretend like it is?

It if your terminology is offensive, don’t you agree it cannot he used?

Is homeless not offensive? (rhetorical question).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

And yet you weirdos have issue with the word “unhoused.” No one demanded that you used the word. But you’re offended by other people using it!

Do you not see how insane you are?

I’m not offended by it in the least, say whatever you want. Maybe no one is demanding it now, but soon saying “homeless” will be considered offensive and we will all be told, implicitly or explicitly, that we can’t say it. Just like we can’t say “eating disorder,” it’s now “disordered eating.” And we can’t call it “looting.” And we can’t say “pedophile,” it’s “minor attracted person.” And we can’t say “minority” it needs to be “under represented minority (URM).” All this nonsense is coming from the left.

Except you can say literally those things. I'm serious.

Here's the NIMH using the term "eating disorder": https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/eating-disorders. Here's CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/04/health/eating-disorders-children-covid-wellness/index.html. Here's the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/well/family/teens-eating-disorders.html

Here's "looting" in the NYT (in an article that's very leftist): https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/opinion/george-floyd-protests-looting.html Here's NPR: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/11/901219045/chicago-authorities-aim-to-prevent-another-night-of-looting. Here's Joe Biden using the word: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/31/politics/joe-biden-pittsburgh-violence-speech/index.html

"Minor attracted person" is very rare (it's basically a term invented by one person who promptly got forced out of their position for it), and even in discussing it, the media uses the term "pedophile" and "pedophilia": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/03/virginia-college-professor-set-off-firestorm-about-pedophilia/

Here's NPR saying "minority" last year: https://www.npr.org/2021/09/02/1033727595/attacks-on-minorities-are-at-their-highest-level-in-12-years-fbi-reports. Here's the NYT a couple years ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/business/economy/jobs-report-minorities.html

That's from a few minutes Googling. All the terms you're convinced you "can't say" and they're all over the mainstream media including from voices on the left. You seem to be mistaking the fact that possibly someone somewhere will object to a term to it being forbidden. It's not. You just have to deal with the fact that people might be object.

I said this upthread, but I say homeless, and I work with this population. I have reasons I say homeless and I'm confident in my choice. I also don't care that other people say unhoused and if someone objected I could explain my reasons, and I'd be happy to discuss it with them. My language isn't controlled by other people's objections and neither is yours, why do you pretend like it is?

It if your terminology is offensive, don’t you agree it cannot he used?

Is homeless not offensive? (rhetorical question).

I don't find "homeless" offensive, like I said, I use it myself. Otherwise, there's always going to be disagreement on what terminology is offensive and outside of a handful of very obvious slurs, people use terms other people find offensive all the time. They're free to do so, and other people are free to object. That's life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

The party trying to control what people think by banning the teaching of history? Hint: Not the left.

Hint: Republicans aren’t trying to ban the teaching of history. We want MORE history taught. We need to teach about the history of racism and oppression in this country. The Left conflates history with CRT.

Hint: learn the difference (and teach it to your kids!)

Right. And the Civil War wasn't about slavery. It was about States' Rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the left trying to control language. Rule of thumb: If someone is telling you what to say or think, it’s probably a lefty.

The party trying to control what people think by banning the teaching of history? Hint: Not the left.

Hint: Republicans aren’t trying to ban the teaching of history. We want MORE history taught. We need to teach about the history of racism and oppression in this country. The Left conflates history with CRT.

Hint: learn the difference (and teach it to your kids!)

Right. And the Civil War wasn't about slavery. It was about States' Rights.

Yes, that's correct, at least in part. Can you really not hold two thoughts in your head at one time? Does everything have to be so black and white with you?