Sad after subbing in the middle school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And yet amazingly, despite being disrespectful to a sub who asked me to stop sleeping on my desk in 8th grade (I didn't feel well and told her to go away and leave me alone), I managed to wind up with a job that pays more than minimum wage.


And here you are as an adult still thinking this was an okay way to handle it.


Show me where I said that. Oh wait, right, I didn't. My point is that being difficult to a substitute teacher is not an indication that someone will wind up in a minimum wage job, which is what the OP is alleging.


Then perhaps you should quote the OP in your post otherwise people will think you are responding to what you quoted- which was on politeness to subs.

I assumed people would be familiar with the initial post that started the thread, and what was said therein. Perhaps not a reasonable expectation for DCUM.

The thread is multiple pages. Best to actually be clear on what you are responding to. Unclear why your posts are so combative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I subbed for 8th grade yesterday. It made me sad. So many kids on track to "dead end" lives. Some can't read. some aren't willing to do any work at all, just sit on their phones all class period. Many are extremely defiant. One girl announced to the class I was racist because of "the way I looked at her". Kids loudly announcing they "hate all subs". So many of these kids seem to be headed to a life on minimum wage jobs. They don't seem to understand that this is their chance to create a good future. Of course there were some really great kids too, but overall I feel sad.

Maybe the kids could feel your judgment...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I subbed for 8th grade yesterday. It made me sad. So many kids on track to "dead end" lives. Some can't read. some aren't willing to do any work at all, just sit on their phones all class period. Many are extremely defiant. One girl announced to the class I was racist because of "the way I looked at her". Kids loudly announcing they "hate all subs". So many of these kids seem to be headed to a life on minimum wage jobs. They don't seem to understand that this is their chance to create a good future. Of course there were some really great kids too, but overall I feel sad.

Maybe the kids could feel your judgment...

Doubtful with their air pods in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
1. It's 8th grade.

2. You're a sub.

3. Of course they're not going to respect you or want to do a lick of work

4. And you're so stupid and unaware of the dynamic here, you can conclude they're all doomed after one day!!! Clearly, subbing for that age group is not for you

Of course they’re not going to respect you? WTF ? So it’s normal for kids not to respect adults? Keep that bar low, PP. You are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right. You subbed for one day and you've doomed these kids to dead end minimum wage jobs. Can't you see you're part of the problem?

No, the problem is the elected politicians who don’t care about children.

Oh look. Governor Youngkin found the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
1. It's 8th grade.

2. You're a sub.

3. Of course they're not going to respect you or want to do a lick of work

4. And you're so stupid and unaware of the dynamic here, you can conclude they're all doomed after one day!!! Clearly, subbing for that age group is not for you

Of course they’re not going to respect you? WTF ? So it’s normal for kids not to respect adults? Keep that bar low, PP. You are part of the problem.

There is a spectrum of respect but, yes, most 8th graders and HS kids will disrespect adults. Some just do it behind their backs, to friends, etc. My child has a couple of "perfect angel" friends and they do it all the time.

Do you actually know any teens?

[Anonymous]

It sounds like this isn’t a high performing school in general. I’d be sad my child goes here. Hopefully yours is in the honors/gifted program...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this isn’t a high performing school in general. I’d be sad my child goes here. Hopefully yours is in the honors/gifted program...

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Insubordinate. And churlish.

LOL DP here but this is my favorite line EVER. I SAY IT ALL THE TIME.

If only there was an Aaron or Denise in OP's class... that would be gold:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And yet amazingly, despite being disrespectful to a sub who asked me to stop sleeping on my desk in 8th grade (I didn't feel well and told her to go away and leave me alone), I managed to wind up with a job that pays more than minimum wage.


And here you are as an adult still thinking this was an okay way to handle it.


Show me where I said that. Oh wait, right, I didn't. My point is that being difficult to a substitute teacher is not an indication that someone will wind up in a minimum wage job, which is what the OP is alleging.


Then perhaps you should quote the OP in your post otherwise people will think you are responding to what you quoted- which was on politeness to subs.

I assumed people would be familiar with the initial post that started the thread, and what was said therein. Perhaps not a reasonable expectation for DCUM.

The thread is multiple pages. Best to actually be clear on what you are responding to. Unclear why your posts are so combative.

NP. Combative? OP’s original post was immediately - and inexplicably- attacked by several parents.

Parents have gone on to attack all subs, and even defend sleeping in class by suggesting you’ll go on to be super successful in life after sleeping your way through school. oK.

Maybe the defensiveness is just “momma bears” lashing out at the suggestion some kids are not OK.

Is it in our children’s best interest to just look the other way and pretend our kids are OK, when many are clearly not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this isn’t a high performing school in general. I’d be sad my child goes here. Hopefully yours is in the honors/gifted program...

No question behavioral issues are worse in lower performing schools but if you think honors kids can’t be complete a-holes, you are in denial.

[Anonymous]

NP. I think every parent on DCUM should sub at a middle school at least once, just to have the experience. You will see just how difficult it is to be a teacher, and just how wide the range of issues are that they deal with every day. And that's without having to plan a single lesson or grade a single piece of work.

You will see that it is difficult work, and that teachers do their best every day to put a happy face on and inspire students of this age.

It is shameful that teachers are being dragged through the mud here on DCUM for doing their best in a difficult job in the most difficult of circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like this isn’t a high performing school in general. I’d be sad my child goes here. Hopefully yours is in the honors/gifted program...

No question behavioral issues are worse in lower performing schools but if you think honors kids can’t be complete a-holes, you are in denial.

+1 My kid is in an honors program in a lower performing middle school and I think some of you might be surprised by who the biggest a-holes are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. I think every parent on DCUM should sub at a middle school at least once, just to have the experience. You will see just how difficult it is to be a teacher, and just how wide the range of issues are that they deal with every day. And that's without having to plan a single lesson or grade a single piece of work.

You will see that it is difficult work, and that teachers do their best every day to put a happy face on and inspire students of this age.

It is shameful that teachers are being dragged through the mud here on DCUM for doing their best in a difficult job in the most difficult of circumstances.

+1 a parent spends one day in the classroom and thinks the world is coming to an end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They may need someone to believe in them. Someone who will not determined after a glimpse at one day of their, that they are doomed to failure. Someone who understands life has been extra challenging the past few years. Someone to encourage and guide them to keep trying.

They need high standards, uniforms, discipline, accountability, and a sense of community.

Exactly what parochial schools and seton schools are able to do with inner city children.

I don’t think large county public school districts can get any less academic or below grade level than they are. The admin really caters to the bottom half and the bottom half keeps dragging the curriculum and teaching and classroom behavior down.

Bring back honors track in 4th grade onward.

This is so true ☹️