After the new price hikes, is the Tesla Model Y sort of a rip-off?

[Anonymous]

We were looking at the sporty one, the Performance, and it now costs about $70,000. About a year ago it was closer to $55,000. I'm assuming we are not the only one turned off by these greedy price hikes -- to drive basically the same exact 2020 car people acquired for $49,000 two years ago. It feels like a pyramid scheme where late adopters are ripped off.

[Anonymous]

Look into the Kia EV6 or similar. At least that is what we're doing.

[Anonymous]

I think it's a rip-off, but we had one we got rid of due to poor build quality and resulting issues. Supposedly they've made upgrades but I think they're internal components and maybe the tech. I doubt it's the glued-on "spoiler" or the poorly sealed cameras and sensors.

Maybe this wouldn't be as big of a deal if they had decent service departments, but that...is not the case. You have to make an appointment through the Tesla app, you might not get in for a couple weeks, you drop off the car, at least half the time they "can't replicate the issue," you have to come get your car, rinse and repeat. Because yeah, if your problem is rain getting into your cameras and creating malfunctions, that's going to be hard to replicate a week or two later when it hasn't rained for a while. Unless they were to spend the time to inundate the cameras to try to recreate the problem (spoiler alert: they do not).

But I guess it depends how bad you want an EV, and/or how bad you want a Tesla. FWIW my neighbor's Model 3 does not have these issues. My physical therapist's Model X, however, does. YMMV.

[Anonymous]

I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

I’ve always thought the same too. I bought a different EV and styling was a small part of the decision, other factors were bigger. There are some great EVs in the $40-50k range. You do get more range on a Tesla if you’re willing to pay a lot more, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

I’ve always thought the same too. I bought a different EV and styling was a small part of the decision, other factors were bigger. There are some great EVs in the $40-50k range. You do get more range on a Tesla if you’re willing to pay a lot more, though.

Which one did you end up buying, PP? I'm in the market for an EV, and don't like Tesla.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

I’ve always thought the same too. I bought a different EV and styling was a small part of the decision, other factors were bigger. There are some great EVs in the $40-50k range. You do get more range on a Tesla if you’re willing to pay a lot more, though.

Which one did you end up buying, PP? I'm in the market for an EV, and don't like Tesla.

Not PP, but I have a preorder for a Rivian R1S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look into the Kia EV6 or similar. At least that is what we're doing.

What do you think of that car - the GT with dual motors in RWD intrigues me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

I’ve always thought the same too. I bought a different EV and styling was a small part of the decision, other factors were bigger. There are some great EVs in the $40-50k range. You do get more range on a Tesla if you’re willing to pay a lot more, though.

Which one did you end up buying, PP? I'm in the market for an EV, and don't like Tesla.

Also not PP but former Tesla owner. DW got a Taycan. I will have to stick with an ICE until there's a viable electric SUV option for me. I do not see Rivian as a viable option and will not until I start actually seeing them on the road. I do like the Audi e-Tron SUV but will give that a few years for them to a) build a from-the-ground-up EV vs. a retrofitted ICE platform, and b) work out the kinks in the first-year models that will be expensive to service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were looking at the sporty one, the Performance, and it now costs about $70,000. About a year ago it was closer to $55,000. I'm assuming we are not the only one turned off by these greedy price hikes -- to drive basically the same exact 2020 car people acquired for $49,000 two years ago. It feels like a pyramid scheme where late adopters are ripped off.

The cost of everything everywhere is increasing, so there will of course be price increases. The difference here is you know the OTD price when you order vs a traditional dealership that adds it on to the MSRP as a dealer markup.

Also, you don't need the performance. Nobody needs the performance - the LR and standards are quite quick enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's a rip-off, but we had one we got rid of due to poor build quality and resulting issues. Supposedly they've made upgrades but I think they're internal components and maybe the tech. I doubt it's the glued-on "spoiler" or the poorly sealed cameras and sensors.

Maybe this wouldn't be as big of a deal if they had decent service departments, but that...is not the case. You have to make an appointment through the Tesla app, you might not get in for a couple weeks, you drop off the car, at least half the time they "can't replicate the issue," you have to come get your car, rinse and repeat. Because yeah, if your problem is rain getting into your cameras and creating malfunctions, that's going to be hard to replicate a week or two later when it hasn't rained for a while. Unless they were to spend the time to inundate the cameras to try to recreate the problem (spoiler alert: they do not).

But I guess it depends how bad you want an EV, and/or how bad you want a Tesla. FWIW my neighbor's Model 3 does not have these issues. My physical therapist's Model X, however, does. YMMV.

I'm sorry to hear that you had so many problems. We have a 2021 Y, a 2020 3, and previously had a 2014 X. We haven't had any problems with any of them. I love driving our Teslas.

To the Rivian poster, I have been seeing a few around the Bay Area (out here working for a few months) and they look really cool. But every other car on the road in California is a Tesla!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look into the Kia EV6 or similar. At least that is what we're doing.

What do you think of that car - the GT with dual motors in RWD intrigues me?

I just watched a few YouTubes video's, but don't have a first hand experience. Besides its range, I like its looks and the space.

[Anonymous]

Model Y Performance price
July 2021 $56,990
March 2022 $67,990

+19% or $11,000 additional dollars for the SAME EXACT CAR.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Teslas looks really sharp when brand new but it seems after a year or two they look dingy? Is that just me?

Yes, it's just you. I've always thought they looked terribly bland. The lowest common denominator that tries to offend the least amount of people.

I’ve always thought the same too. I bought a different EV and styling was a small part of the decision, other factors were bigger. There are some great EVs in the $40-50k range. You do get more range on a Tesla if you’re willing to pay a lot more, though.

Which one did you end up buying, PP? I'm in the market for an EV, and don't like Tesla.

PP here. I ended up buying a VW ID.4 Pro S.