Quick passport question: can old passport be submitted as proof of citizenship AND identity?

[Anonymous]

For my 16 year old. Previous passports are listed as allowed evidence of citizenship as well as identity. So, can I just present his old passport (unexpired) to prove both, instead of two different documents? Don't want to have to dig out the birth certificate...

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

OP here. My son's previous passport is set to expire at the end of the year, which is why we're applying for a new one. I was wondering whether I could submit this document as proof of both requirements (identity and citizenship).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

OP here. My son's previous passport is set to expire at the end of the year, which is why we're applying for a new one. I was wondering whether I could submit this document as proof of both requirements (identity and citizenship).

Ah ok thanks for clarifying. I think if the passport is within 6 months of expiring you could have issues. If it's end of the year though you're still outside of that six months - but this is for international travel. It may be different if you're using it just as identification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

OP here. My son's previous passport is set to expire at the end of the year, which is why we're applying for a new one. I was wondering whether I could submit this document as proof of both requirements (identity and citizenship).

How old is he? When was the passport issued?

You can renew your current or expired U.S. passport unless your passport was:

Issued before your 16th birthday

Issued 15 or more years ago

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

OP here. My son's previous passport is set to expire at the end of the year, which is why we're applying for a new one. I was wondering whether I could submit this document as proof of both requirements (identity and citizenship).

How old is he? When was the passport issued?

You can renew your current or expired U.S. passport unless your passport was:

Issued before your 16th birthday

Issued 15 or more years ago

If any of these are true, you cannot renew your passport. Instead, you must apply for a new passport in person using form DS-11.

[Anonymous]

If under 16, an old passport is fine. We just did it a few weeks ago. Make sure you have a copy of his birth certificate as well.

[Anonymous]

Passport is good enough for both. You have to apply in person using DS-11 for a 16 year old, you cannot mail it in.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thank you all. DS is 16. Current passport was issued in 2017, and will expire in November. We have the DS11 all filled out and the appointment is this afternoon, hence my last-minute questions about documents. Just to make sure, I did manage to find his birth certificate (phew!), in case we are asked for two different docs. Photocopies for both. Photo, where he looks appropriately bored and uninterested, just like in real life

We're all set! Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. Thank you all. DS is 16. Current passport was issued in 2017, and will expire in November. We have the DS11 all filled out and the appointment is this afternoon, hence my last-minute questions about documents. Just to make sure, I did manage to find his birth certificate (phew!), in case we are asked for two different docs. Photocopies for both. Photo, where he looks appropriately bored and uninterested, just like in real life

We're all set! Thanks!

The rule with all this is bring every single piece of documentation you have and they might possibly want.

[Anonymous]

You can also request a certified copy of his birth certificate from the state where it was issued. In DC you don't need an appointment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. Thank you all. DS is 16. Current passport was issued in 2017, and will expire in November. We have the DS11 all filled out and the appointment is this afternoon, hence my last-minute questions about documents. Just to make sure, I did manage to find his birth certificate (phew!), in case we are asked for two different docs. Photocopies for both. Photo, where he looks appropriately bored and uninterested, just like in real life

We're all set! Thanks!

Bring the original for the birth certificate.

-Ex DOS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP here. Thank you all. DS is 16. Current passport was issued in 2017, and will expire in November. We have the DS11 all filled out and the appointment is this afternoon, hence my last-minute questions about documents. Just to make sure, I did manage to find his birth certificate (phew!), in case we are asked for two different docs. Photocopies for both. Photo, where he looks appropriately bored and uninterested, just like in real life

We're all set! Thanks!

Bring the original for the birth certificate.

-Ex DOS

ALSO, while not required a USPS employee processing passport applications tried to claim my then 17 y.o. DCs could not apply as they did not bring their school ID. He kept arguing with me, even when explaining that no new school ID had been issued b/c of COVID. He only relented when I pulled up the DOS requirements list on my phone and showed him that there was no requirement to present a student ID. We were submitting their expired passports, original birth certificates, etc. The site also says that the parent can vouch for the child's identity. I also had all my documents with me in case he did not find the license sufficient.

After all that, he forgot to have me sign the docs in front of him. Fortunately, I answered a "Caller Unknown" on my phone and his boss asked me to run back to the office (just. few blocks away) and sign them.

He did all that just because he could.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure what you mean by "old passport". They're good for 10 years so at some point they're all considered "old".
From what I understand an unexpired passport trumps the requirement for two different forms of ID.

passports for minors only last 5 years.

[Anonymous]

They also asked for parents licenses at our post office.