Texas proposal to eliminate tenure at universities: will destroy research in Texas.

[Anonymous]

Another state whose leadership aims to destroy public education in their state.

What will happen if this passes:
Complete inability for Texas to recruit new science professors who are able to compete in the market of ideas.
Those smart faculty will head to other states - or other countries. (Britain, China would love to have them.)

If this happens I wouldn't send my kids to Texas universities - because Texas universities won't get the best faculty.

We have a modern global talent economy, and if a state education system is anti-intellectual, why would I want my kids to go to school there?

[Anonymous]

Undermining education is a core component of the new GOP.

They want the country to be fat and dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Undermining education is a core component of the new GOP.

They want the country to be fat and dumb.

Pretty much. On the plus side, more research for all the other states, so yay!

[Anonymous]

Some professors are lazy A holes. This might help get rid of them. Now we need term imits for congress and the Supreme Court.

[Anonymous]

Why does Texas even devote tax dollars to education? They should just do away with publicly financed Universities and colleges. Ever republican would be for this!

[Anonymous]

Rich republicans will just send their kids out of state. This will affect poorer Texans who can’t afford to leave, as usual.

[Anonymous]

Just a political stunt. Politicians propose all kind of crazy stuff all the time, no need for panic OP, no need to withdraw your kids college apps

[Anonymous]

Tenure is a bad idea. This divide between tenured professors who can get away with anything except "buggering the bursa" and the precariat of adjuncts who are treated like crap is a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a political stunt. Politicians propose all kind of crazy stuff all the time, no need for panic OP, no need to withdraw your kids college apps

LOL No - where you live and work matters. Texas is one of 12 states to refuse all federal funding for the expanded Medicare and ACA credits. Texas is also one of the 2 new states with heartbeat laws restricting abortion after 6 weeks. Texas is ALSO one of the states with the highest concentrations of anti-vaxxers in the nation because their state laws prohibit mandates even in schools.

Are you seeing a pattern here? Texas passes nuts laws all the freaking time. And collectively - it makes it pretty undesirable for someone who desires a well-rounded and plague-free education with access to female reproductive rights.

[Anonymous]

University of Wisconsin has seen a real brain drain since the state weakened tenure. Same thing will happen in Texas.

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Anonymous wrote:University of Wisconsin has seen a real brain drain since the state weakened tenure. Same thing will happen in Texas.

My DH is a professor and I guarantee you he would not consider working at a University that didn't provide it.

There are issues with tenure, as mentioned above, but it is a key element in academia and getting rid of it would be an absolute disaster for any University that chooses to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:Tenure is a bad idea. This divide between tenured professors who can get away with anything except "buggering the bursa" and the precariat of adjuncts who are treated like crap is a disaster.

Why would a top professor in their field deciding between offers that have a tenure track and offers that are strictly at will ever choose the at will option?

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Anonymous wrote:Rich republicans will just send their kids out of state. This will affect poorer Texans who can’t afford to leave, as usual.

I doubt private schools in Texas will eliminate Tenure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another state whose leadership aims to destroy public education in their state.

What will happen if this passes:
Complete inability for Texas to recruit new science professors who are able to compete in the market of ideas.
Those smart faculty will head to other states - or other countries. (Britain, China would love to have them.)

If this happens I wouldn't send my kids to Texas universities - because Texas universities won't get the best faculty.

We have a modern global talent economy, and if a state education system is anti-intellectual, why would I want my kids to go to school there?

I'm not a Republican and have voted for them zero times but this is one proposal I can stand behind. I can understand tenure when the supply of teachers is low. I keep hearing that it's the oppisite. Too many PhDs looking for too few jobs. Kill tenure and hire the best. If old geezer wants to leave because his tenure is gone, he's welcome. Don't think research funding will be impacted by this.

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Anonymous wrote:Just a political stunt. Politicians propose all kind of crazy stuff all the time, no need for panic OP, no need to withdraw your kids college apps

LOL No - where you live and work matters. Texas is one of 12 states to refuse all federal funding for the expanded Medicare and ACA credits. Texas is also one of the 2 new states with heartbeat laws restricting abortion after 6 weeks. Texas is ALSO one of the states with the highest concentrations of anti-vaxxers in the nation because their state laws prohibit mandates even in schools.

Are you seeing a pattern here? Texas passes nuts laws all the freaking time. And collectively - it makes it pretty undesirable for someone who desires a well-rounded and plague-free education with access to female reproductive rights.

+1. 100%. I'm from TX, graduated from UT, and had been looking to move back home in the past few years. The COVID politics coupled with the lunatic anti-choice laws made me rethink that. I also heavily considered whether I thought Texas state schools would be a sinking ship. My hunch was that state gov't would eventually do something to completely destroy the university, as they had with the guns on campus nonsense. I opted not to move back and know many Texan ex-pats who are equally concerned.