Question for Other Moderate Republicans Who Have Voted for Dems

[Anonymous]

do you guys ever look around, after voting for Dems in the Trump era and think, wait, wtf? I am pro-choice, for example. Love reproductive rights. Big fan. This would be a great thing for Democrats to use their legislative powers to protect. But they don't. They are currently...trying to get a four-day work week. What on earth?

[Anonymous]

Moderate Dem here - I'm very much in this line of thought. Why can't the Dems run on strengthening their current accomplishments like ACA/SS/Voting Rights -instead of whatever outlandish fancy they suddenly come up with?

[Anonymous]

No. I am aware that neither could ever get past the filibuster in the Senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:do you guys ever look around, after voting for Dems in the Trump era and think, wait, wtf? I am pro-choice, for example. Love reproductive rights. Big fan. This would be a great thing for Democrats to use their legislative powers to protect. But they don't. They are currently...trying to get a four-day work week. What on earth?

I have not heard about a four day work week. What other crazy things are Dems trying to pass?

[Anonymous]

I feel like I get soured by the anticapitalist tone among some of the democrats. I am all for social programs and that includes universal health care. But there are a lot of programs pushed by the Democrats that I think are just redistribution of wealth and I am not for that.

[Anonymous]

Pp here. To follow up, I had the same launching pad as my siblings and roughly same abilities. We are all different and one siblings choice have had long term negative consequences. But he had fun! I don’t think I should have to pay for his kids school etc. choices have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Pp here again. I mention the sibling because my viewpoint is not race based or party based. It is based on what I have seen and experience. Even given amazing support and opportunity, some people will sink their own ship. No amount of social programs can fix that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I get soured by the anticapitalist tone among some of the democrats. I am all for social programs and that includes universal health care. But there are a lot of programs pushed by the Democrats that I think are just redistribution of wealth and I am not for that.

There is a small, very vocal, very left group saying this. Not even Elizabeth Warren is anti-capitalist. Please don’t think activists represent the Democratic Party. The rightwing and mainstream (cable news) media LOVE to focus on the “radical” portion of the left while ignoring the very real radical takeover of the GOP by an anti-democracy faction.

The truth is, our country lags in so many programs that make a healthy up society. Paid time off, affordable healthcare, lower prescription drugs, affordable college…

Yes, there will always be scammers. I consider the biggest scammers to be the billionaires & wealthy corporations who have convinced the American public that they should be allowed to skip paying what they owe in taxes because they are
1. job makers
2. have “pulled bootstraps/ worked hard for their money, while ignoring that much of their wealth was built from the public good i.e. they and or their workers were educated in schools, their goods travel on public roads & purchased over publicly seed funded Internet…

They are laughing all the way to the bank, or in some cases to outerspace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I get soured by the anticapitalist tone among some of the democrats. I am all for social programs and that includes universal health care. But there are a lot of programs pushed by the Democrats that I think are just redistribution of wealth and I am not for that.

There is a small, very vocal, very left group saying this. Not even Elizabeth Warren is anti-capitalist. Please don’t think activists represent the Democratic Party. The rightwing and mainstream (cable news) media LOVE to focus on the “radical” portion of the left while ignoring the very real radical takeover of the GOP by an anti-democracy faction.

The truth is, our country lags in so many programs that make a healthy up society. Paid time off, affordable healthcare, lower prescription drugs, affordable college…

Yes, there will always be scammers. I consider the biggest scammers to be the billionaires & wealthy corporations who have convinced the American public that they should be allowed to skip paying what they owe in taxes because they are
1. job makers
2. have “pulled bootstraps/ worked hard for their money, while ignoring that much of their wealth was built from the public good i.e. they and or their workers were educated in schools, their goods travel on public roads & purchased over publicly seed funded Internet…

They are laughing all the way to the bank, or in some cases to outerspace.

I thought that too. I feel like Biden is drawn to that group more than I expected and it lends a lot of legitimacy to their goals. Which makes me wonder if more democrats today are for that type of stuff. A lot of young people really want free college or tuition forgiveness. I hear some sad stories of people who got scammed by banks but for many I hear about massive tuition to earn a Low earning degree. That is a choice, not a tragedy. I know young people at my work who have massive debt but at least some of it was accumulated doing mostly frivolous semesters or summers abroad. I took loans and worked every summer and during the school year and NEVER got to do that because I couldn’t afford it. Or should I say, I wasn’t willing to take out loans to do it. I should not now be asked to pay for Larlas summer in Spain. Nope. But those same colleagues all talked about loan forgiveness. It made me so mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like I get soured by the anticapitalist tone among some of the democrats. I am all for social programs and that includes universal health care. But there are a lot of programs pushed by the Democrats that I think are just redistribution of wealth and I am not for that.

Who are you talking about, specifically? And by that I'm talking about people who are actually in a position to try, like Dem House and Senate members, can you give specific examples and explain how it constitutes "a lot" of what is being pushed compared to everything else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moderate Dem here - I'm very much in this line of thought. Why can't the Dems run on strengthening their current accomplishments like ACA/SS/Voting Rights -instead of whatever outlandish fancy they suddenly come up with?

Filibuster. Read up.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone else think that this whole discussion is orchestrated by Republicans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:do you guys ever look around, after voting for Dems in the Trump era and think, wait, wtf? I am pro-choice, for example. Love reproductive rights. Big fan. This would be a great thing for Democrats to use their legislative powers to protect. But they don't. They are currently...trying to get a four-day work week. What on earth?

14 progressives in Congress sponsoring a 4-day workweek bill are not the Democratic Party. Yet another case of conservative media trying to define them.

If a women's right to choose is important to you, then you won't support the GOP, because they have made that a litmus test for their party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think that this whole discussion is orchestrated by Republicans?

Not really. There are many reasons for moderates to be deeply concerned with the tone and language of many Democrats and the progressive left. They thought they were getting a pragmatic centrist aka Bill Clinton with Biden but we ended up with a president who seems to care more about national pronoun day than inflation and supply chain bottlenecks.

There is a distinct tone-deafness in the Democratic leadership to everyday needs and plights. I'm not really sure what is going on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think that this whole discussion is orchestrated by Republicans?

ya think?