But they didn’t, did they. Are you paying attention? |
Well, that’s why we’re having an election! Also, the donor class only got on board once they saw how much grassroots money she raised. No one, in the history of American politics has mobilized so many small donors so quickly! Not even Obama! |
So the donors wanted her but not until they also didn’t want her? All I know is Harris has raised more money from small donors than anyone has ever done in two days. It’s hard to express how powerful the public surge of excitement for her is. |
No, she was anointed by Biden. The donor class decided they did not want him, and he supported her, which people got behind. He did not have to do that. |
It’s like the twilight zone around here. I can’t believe this needs to be explained… On the ticket as VP, not President. Imagine if we’d had open primaries? Imagine if Biden’s state had not been intentionally hidden from the people for the last 2 years? That in and of itself is something we should be fuming about. This just isn’t how democracy is supposed to work. |
I agree that economic issues should be on top. So glad to see that union is not the dirty word among the young. |
Democracy is what happens in November. This is party business. If Haley can give her delegates to Trump why can’t Biden give his to Harris? Also there’s been literally NO pushback from any Dems. |
Funny to see the Jan 6 party suddenly bleating about democracy. |
I'm pretty sure Dems have flipped quite a bit on the situation, but they refuse to separate parents from their children, which I think is pretty respectable. |
Because Haley’s gesture was symbolic and would have made 0 difference whatsoever. Whereas this is just a coup. It’s honestly pretty similar to if faithless electors would have voted for Trump in the EC in 2020. “Ohh the popular vote is democracy, that’s not how the system works though. It’s all about the EC and electors can do what they want!” 🙄 Honestly though, I can see both sides of the argument here. It’s VERRRRYYY ironic that the Democrats screaming about how democracy is threatened completely disregard their own primaries. But also, Kamala would be the one to take over for Biden anyway so.. it’s kinda valid I guess?.. But then also, as so many love to point out—the VP doesn’t really have any power except for being a tie-breaker in the Senate (otherwise she’d be completely responsible for border failures, since Biden put her in charge of that). So really, people were not voting for her ever—they were voting for Biden specifically… |
That’s fine, how about not continuing to extend and add populations to the “Temporary” Protected Status program, and doing mass deportations and workplace raids? And actually making a point to promise to crack down on immigration and end birthright citizenship (or attempt to) and fully embrace border control and ICE? You know when FDR managed to pass his new deal, and implement extremely progressive policies and then get re-elected 4 times—there’s was a very strict immigration act in place? And there was the same strict immigration act in place during the probably most loved decade, in our country’s history in the 50’s? Poll after poll, survery after survey, study after study shows that more immigration means less support for progressive economic policies. I want progressive economic policies. So immigration gets the short end of the stick. |
I also want progressive policy with strict immigration like Bernie outlined, but that just isn't popular with most liberals. |
That’s nice till you learn kids went missing under Kamalas watch. Turns out when you open the floodgates and welcome any and everyone like it’s just one big free for all kids can get lost or stolen by kidnappers . That’s what happens when the President and VP of the US welcome illegal immigration foot traffic by the millions . Things like this happen |
I don't think this will change under Trump or Harris. The border problem is a very difficult geopolitical issue, not sure how we summed it up to a stretch of wall in the Southern US. |
Which is why we implement strict immigration policies first. Otherwise we will never get the buy-in needed for progressive policies. |