APS reading

[Anonymous]

Anyone have a kid in MS sstruggling with reading comprehension bc of the way APS taught reading in ES? I am at my wits end that my 8th grader is still making up words because of the way she will put in a word when she doesn’t recognize the written word I vaguely remember this from kindergarten looking at the picture to figure out the word based on the letters . So a word like jewel she would read as jewelry. Granted no pictures now and more complex reading. In the same vain her spelling terrible as well. It’s not dyslexia but obviously one can ser where comprehension suffers of the word recall/match isn’t right. Now seeking a tutor to help with reading comprehension and supplement so she doesn’t fall further behind

[Anonymous]

Did you specifically rule out dyslexia?

[Anonymous]

yes
not dyslexia

[Anonymous]

Yes, my 6th grader is a terrible reader.

[Anonymous]

Are you sure it’s not dyslexia? Have you done testing? I could go on an on about APS’ lack of teaching reading to kids that age.

My 6th grader is recently diagnosed dyslexic, dysgraphic and other things. APS did not teach phonics to kids when this group was in ES. They have no idea how to sound out words. If you have no other issues it’s not a problem. You figure it out eventually. Kids with learning challenges never do without intensive tutoring.

If your kids making up words it’s because they have a great memory and have memorized what that word should be. Change it up at all they’re grasping at straws guessing.

[Anonymous]

Get your kid an OG tutor. Orrin Gillingham. They will be able to diagnose the issue and then give you some targeted tutoring. It is evidence based. My sister who is a reading specialist said it’s the best intervention.

[Anonymous]

Sorry Orton Gillingham

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get your kid an OG tutor. Orrin Gillingham. They will be able to diagnose the issue and then give you some targeted tutoring. It is evidence based. My sister who is a reading specialist said it’s the best intervention.

+1 to OG

[Anonymous]

Maybe contact Symone - the one that ran for school board. Her son seemed to have a similar issue and she saw some reading specialist. She can probably point you to the right direction.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the recommendation on OG! Yes it is not dyslexia...we just got done with a cognitive asssesment and other parts of reading profile are not

[Anonymous]

It’s because until this year they have used Lucy Caulkins, which apparently was widely cut from curriculums once other districts discovered how flawed and ineffective it was. I only hope it’s not too late for our second grader to recover losses from this detrimental literacy system. Sorry your middle schooler is struggling because of it.

[Anonymous]

We transferred out of state to another public and I'm shocked at how much better my younger Kindergartner is being taught letters/numbers/reading than my son was in APS. Meanwhile my son/now 3rd grader guesses at words he doesn't know the same way you're describing. He was at a bilingual APS school so I chalked it up to that in his being behind from K and 1st grade....but I'm starting to wonder.

[Anonymous]

They need to scrap her sh***y writing program, too. What is the point of having K students who can’t write a single word write a “story.” JFC, teach them how to spell individual words, then how to properly construct a sentence with proper grammar and punctuation and capitalization, and THEN teach them how to write a paragraph, and maybe then a story. Not teaching this stuff explicitly is criminal and really disadvantages ELL and kids whose parents aren’t over their shoulders at home correcting their mistakes and reinforcing these basic tenets. They want them to build a sky scraper without giving them basic building blocks to start. The district should throw her “curriculum” out and sue her. It’s shameful what’s happened to an entire cohort of kids who were not given the proper tools to be successful students. If you can’t read or write proficiently, you really haven’t received a basic education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They need to scrap her sh***y writing program, too. What is the point of having K students who can’t write a single word write a “story.” JFC, teach them how to spell individual words, then how to properly construct a sentence with proper grammar and punctuation and capitalization, and THEN teach them how to write a paragraph, and maybe then a story. Not teaching this stuff explicitly is criminal and really disadvantages ELL and kids whose parents aren’t over their shoulders at home correcting their mistakes and reinforcing these basic tenets. They want them to build a sky scraper without giving them basic building blocks to start. The district should throw her “curriculum” out and sue her. It’s shameful what’s happened to an entire cohort of kids who were not given the proper tools to be successful students. If you can’t read or write proficiently, you really haven’t received a basic education.

Oh. My. God. Their writing program is ABYSMAL. My kids are excellent readers (no thanks to APS, literally, It’s just because they’re both obsessed with reading and learning) but sub-par writers. I will never forgive APS for making my kid write A BOOK in third grade. They went from “third grade sentences have at least seven words” to “Write a book with at least four chapters, a table of contents, and a glossary.”

I have seen people on DCUM defend it because “it’s a fun thing for the kids to do” (no, it is not fun to be asked to do something you have no clue how to do), and because they do learn the main objective which is learning text features. But a) most of the time spent on that project is spent thinking about picking a topic, how the heck you organize a paragraph, how you organize a chapter, and even how to write sentences because they still don’t have that skill down Pat. And you know how you can really teach a kid learn about glossaries and tables of contents? Have them use them! While reading a factual book and making the kids learn the content using glossaries and tables of contents. But we can’t teach kids about history or science, we don’t have time for that because we are spending hours and hours a day on our shitty reading program.

And then the teachers didn’t even read the book! It was so stressful for my poor kid, because on top of all this they made him hand-write it and his handwriting sucked and was painstakingly slow.

DD is in 7th and I’m decently happy with the instruction but I’m homeschooling DD for elementary. I cannot bear the idea of him spending so much time in school learning nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to scrap her sh***y writing program, too. What is the point of having K students who can’t write a single word write a “story.” JFC, teach them how to spell individual words, then how to properly construct a sentence with proper grammar and punctuation and capitalization, and THEN teach them how to write a paragraph, and maybe then a story. Not teaching this stuff explicitly is criminal and really disadvantages ELL and kids whose parents aren’t over their shoulders at home correcting their mistakes and reinforcing these basic tenets. They want them to build a sky scraper without giving them basic building blocks to start. The district should throw her “curriculum” out and sue her. It’s shameful what’s happened to an entire cohort of kids who were not given the proper tools to be successful students. If you can’t read or write proficiently, you really haven’t received a basic education.

Oh. My. God. Their writing program is ABYSMAL. My kids are excellent readers (no thanks to APS, literally, It’s just because they’re both obsessed with reading and learning) but sub-par writers. I will never forgive APS for making my kid write A BOOK in third grade. They went from “third grade sentences have at least seven words” to “Write a book with at least four chapters, a table of contents, and a glossary.”

I have seen people on DCUM defend it because “it’s a fun thing for the kids to do” (no, it is not fun to be asked to do something you have no clue how to do), and because they do learn the main objective which is learning text features. But a) most of the time spent on that project is spent thinking about picking a topic, how the heck you organize a paragraph, how you organize a chapter, and even how to write sentences because they still don’t have that skill down Pat. And you know how you can really teach a kid learn about glossaries and tables of contents? Have them use them! While reading a factual book and making the kids learn the content using glossaries and tables of contents. But we can’t teach kids about history or science, we don’t have time for that because we are spending hours and hours a day on our shitty reading program.

And then the teachers didn’t even read the book! It was so stressful for my poor kid, because on top of all this they made him hand-write it and his handwriting sucked and was painstakingly slow.

DD is in 7th and I’m decently happy with the instruction but I’m homeschooling DD for elementary. I cannot bear the idea of him spending so much time in school learning nothing.

I have an 8th grader -- I don't remember write a BOOK?? What?