Peer reputation scores US news

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have the peer reputation scores for the recent US news ranking?

[Anonymous]

That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.

https://www.reed.edu/reed-magazine/articles/2021/rankings-gladwell-usnews.html

With the help of Reed statistics professor Kelly McConville and her students Huaying Qiu ’20 and Lauren Rabe ’21, Malcolm Gladwell zeroes in on a key element of the US News algorithm, the notorious peer assessment score. To calculate this score, the guide asks top college officials—presidents, provosts, and deans of admission—to rate other institutions. But as Gladwell points out, these officials often know very little about the schools they’re assessing. In a riveting exchange with an anonymous dean of admission, Gladwell examines the kind of impressionistic factors—”my cousin went there and had a good time”—that color people’s judgment. Gladwell even interviews the president of Rowan University, who sends a bottle of hot sauce to other presidents every year in an effort to boost Rowan’s score (it works!)

The bottom line, as Gladwell discovers, is that the peer assessment score is essentially a function of reputation—reputation that over the last 30 years has been constructed, maintained, and reinforced by US News.

[Anonymous]

1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

[Anonymous]

There are outliers with peer assessment scores. That’s the point. The vast majority of them will come up similar scores. PA scores haven’t changed much since USNWR started ranking colleges. They do go up and down, so they are not exactly a constant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

PA scores once again prove that Michigan and particularly Berkeley, are woefully under-ranked

[Anonymous]

These actually look surprisingly accurate to me. Do the LAC scores reflect reality as well?

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

[Anonymous]

These scores are largely static and are provided by people who have very little idea what is going on at other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PA scores once again prove that Michigan and particularly Berkeley, are woefully under-ranked

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Berkeley's PA score is likely heavily based on research and graduate reputation. Not the best choice for many for undergraduate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s the only data I trust at USNWR. Everything else is easily manipulated, particularly by privates schools, and has been an ongoing concern for decades.

This is the only data supported by subjective he say she say opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

From this list, I can see other measurements for Columbia, Chicago, Rice must have been through the roof compared with other colleges they shared their rankings with. On the other hand, Stanford's other measurements should have been terribly worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

How is Rice so low on this list?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Princeton 4.8
2. Columbia 4.7
Harvard 4.9
MIT 4.9
5. Yale 4.8
6. Stanford 4.9
U Chicago 4.6
8. UPenn 4.6
Caltech 4.6
9. Duke 4.5
John's Hopkins 4.7
Northwestern 4.4
13. Dartmouth 4.4
14. Brown 4.5
Vanderbilt 4.3
WashU 4.2
17. Cornell 4.6
Rice 4.1
19. Notre Dame 4.2
20. UCLA 4.4
21. Emory 4.2
22. UC Berkeley 4.7
23. Georgetown 4.2
U Michigan 4.5
25. Carnegie Mellon 4.3
UVA 4.3
You're welcome! However a caveat... There are several important factors that should go into the rankings and peer reputation is only one factor. Student selectivity and institutional resources matter for the entire quality of the school. Peer Reputation can also be gamer as well.

From this list, I can see other measurements for Columbia, Chicago, Rice must have been through the roof compared with other colleges they shared their rankings with. On the other hand, Stanford's other measurements should have been terribly worse.

Rice is a mini Princeton. Very small, a lot of money, and very high student quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These scores are largely static and are provided by people who have very little idea what is going on at other schools.

This is true.
This is why we need to come to DCUM for unbiased, knowledgeable info on these schools.