Anyone's child do well enough on the COGAT to get into AAP, after not so great NNAT?
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Anonymous
| Anyone ever have a child get into AAP with low NNAT? In other words, is it possible to have a low NNAT and knock the CogAT out the park and still get in or does low NNAT predict low CogAT? DD's NNAT was 113 (79%). |
Anonymous
| I think one is biased toward visual and the other toward auditory learners, no? |
Anonymous
| For the most part, NNAT and FxAT tested kids in different skills and knowledge, so I would not be worried so much now for a low NNAT score. Not sure how FCPS decides criteria to get in the screening pool this year, but last year (2014-2015), they decided based on either NNAT or FxAT score(>130 I recall). Once you get in the pool, then GBRS will also be an important factor to be qualified for AAP. |
Anonymous
| Thank you. It's still "or." DD just has to do well on 1 of the tests to get in the pool. But since her NNAT is low, we now have to pin our hopes on CogAT. It's a bit unnerving to put all our hopes on this one test just to get into the pool. The AART teacher said last year it was anyone who got a 132 or above on one of those tests that got into the pool. |
Anonymous
| I see people list their GBRS scores? How are they getting them? Do you know them before your child is screened? Do you know them going in just like you know the scores your child got on the tests? |
Anonymous
| 113 is not "low" It is nearly one standard deviation above average. Low would be a 75. |
Anonymous
I think you understood what she meant: Low for the purpose of what the test will be used for. |
Anonymous
The GBRS with Commentary is prepared as part of building the screening file. The screening file is built by the AART. Children that are in pool (with benchmark scores on either the NNAT2 or the CogAT) as well as children referred for screening (which may include children who have NOT scored above the benchmark) have screening files prepared by the AART. Once the screening file is complete, parents are able to view the entire file by meeting with the AART. Some AARTs will not show parents the file until after eligibility letters are sent out. (This was not our experience; the AART at our school provided copies of the screening file to us once it was sent on to the Central Screening Committee.) |
Anonymous
| OP, do you think your child is gifted and needs to be in a full time gifted class? |
Anonymous
113 is just slightly above average for Fairfax (approximately 75%tile is average for this area). |
Anonymous
Last year to be in-pool the child would need 132 or higher on *either* the NNAT or CogAT. Even if child is in-pool, a low NNAT would need to be offset by a really good CogAT and GBRS - basically you want the committee to see evidence that the NNAT was just a one-off, bad day sort of thing. |
Anonymous
Don't answer that OP. It's a trap! |
Anonymous
Still not low. |
Anonymous
| Last year my son got a decent Cogat score (131 overall , 138 Quantitative) after getting similar NNat score (113) as posted by the original poster. He barely missed the cut off to the pool by 1 point. His GBRS was 12 and the teacher gave a good report. He made it to the AAP. |
Anonymous
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79th percentile does not belong in AAP. If the CogAT comes out in the 95th or better percentile -- then fine. But, that is unlikely given that there is a non-verbal section on the CogAT and a similar score on that would bring the composite score down.
OP -- best of luck, but be realistic. The PP has shown it is possible, but I'm sure that is uncommon. |