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WPPSI in high 70 range
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Anonymous
My son tested well on the wpssi and I did not prep him. I am a SAHM and spend some time each day reading/ doing puzzles etc, but he well on the test on his own not because I bored him day in day out practicing for a standardized test I know nothing about. I am sure previous exposure to concepts plays a role (block patterns in preschool, etc) but I think it is a little extreme to say that a high score is no more than parent involvement...sorry. I think scores can vary based on experience and how the child feels that day, sure, but I think it is a bit strong to discredit it altogether. |
Anonymous
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A score in the 78th percentile puts DC in the top 12% of the population (forget arguing the merits of the test). This is fair game to apply.
A 70 full scale score is another story. |
Anonymous
| 22% of the population. |
Anonymous
You're sooooo right! I got snow brain. Knock me down a stanine! Anonymous can be a real nice place sometimes! 
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Anonymous
You are correct. A high 70s score is within the range where the courts say you can make a case for being so mentally impaired that you cannot be executed for murder. That being said, if OP's kid did score a 70, it is probably a sign the kid was not ready for the test or something else went sideways on test day. This happens. Wait a year and see what you get. If it was in the 70+ %ile, I have two questions: 1. Does that seem right given OP, her partner/husband and her observations of the kid? 2. What did the tester say about how accurate the test seemed for that child? If the tester said it is not accurate, clearly test again next year. Even if the tester said it was accurate, if the OP thinks it doesn't sound right, test again with a different tester next year who has a better personality fit for your kid. I am the PP who had two kids test low the first time. Kid 1 tested below 70 as a full-scale score (meaning significantly retarded - again, sorry for the word; it is still used in legal circles and I am most familiar with this issue from work on death penalty cases). We obviously knew it was wrong, as did the tester. Luckily, our preschool director encouraged us to breathe because we were freaking out about how this could have happened. It is very common for young kids to do random things in these testing situations. In our kid's case, it was test anxiety/nervousness. The following year, kid #1 tested in the low 90s %ile (forget what IQ - over 120 I think). Kid #2, who has always seemed brighter than #1, frankly, pulled an 82% the first year with a different tester (the tester we found for #1 was not available). Although the tester thought it was accurate, we did not. The preschool did not either and thought Kid 2 just was not ready for the test. Also (I'm sure I'll get flamed for this), between the two of us, the lowest parent IQ is 149. So it just didn't add up with what we saw in her and genetics. We waited a year, retested with a tester we thought was a better match for our kid (the same one we used for #1), and she pulled a 95%. I don't think that tester scores high, but her way and manner of interacting works well with our kids. #2 is less shy but is still somewhat shy. |
Anonymous
| Who was the tester you liked? The one you mentioned that you took both children to for the second time around. I think my kids scores were low (just at 80). This board has caused me to be stressed and to worry that they will not get into any of the schools I applied to, which prior to now, I thought they had a pretty good chance. By the way, Iused the same tester for both and the scores were within points of each other. I was also annoyed because one child's birthday was wrong and on the other, the pronouns used, were for the wrong gender! I have called the tester umpteen times and she refuses to return my call. I would not use her again. BTW,does high average really not meanhigh average? According to this board, only geniuses would go to private school. I find it hard to believe that all the kids in private schools are geniouses. |
Anonymous
I love that I spelled geniuses wrong! Perhaps they cannot get into school because their mom is an idiot! 
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Anonymous
| The tester I liked is Maria Zimmitti. Again, though, it is about finding somebody who is good with your kids. Both my kids are within a few places of each other on the shy scale. The other testers we used were also very reputable and highly recommended (just like Dr. Z) but the kids were not ready and the tester's way of interacting did not pull the best from them. |
Anonymous
| I have heard very positive things about her and should have used her. My kids are shy too. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind speaking with me. I promise to be brief...I too understand the concept of the billable hour! |
Anonymous
| If you do not mind speaking with me, please send me an email to wppsiquestion@gmail.com, and I will send you my email/number. For obvious reasons, I do not want to post either to an anonymous site. Thank you in advance for your time and comments thus far. |
Anonymous
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I'm not sure how much more I could add than I have said. I would suggest calling Dr. Z to see if she seems like a good fit for you.
And, this may sound crazy (although not much does here on good ol' DCUM), but I would rather not discuss it while #2 has apps pending, even if one of the apps is a sib app. I was already accused once on this thread of doing something wrong by having my kids take the test again in a subsequent year, which I didn't. Sorry to be paranoid. I hope you understand. I wish you all the best and hope all works out this year or next for your children. |
Anonymous
Understood. Thanks anyway. Just trying to get a sense of how this all works from someone with experience. I'm used to being able to make sense of things and I am at a loss in this process. The head of my preschool was surpised by the result and said that I should not focus on it, but rather should focus on the rest of the application. If you change your mind, just shoot me an email. I'll even sing a NDA...
For whatever its worth, I am reading I Don't Know How Shge Does It, by Allison Pearson. Judging by the tone and tenor of your emails, I am going to be overly presumptuous and say that you would probably enjoy it. |
Anonymous
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It's my personal manifesto! I have read it about six times, but I have not yet stooped to distressing pies!
Good luck. It really WILL all work out. My "60 IQ kid" is in a school people talk about on here and loves it. |
Anonymous
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Funny. One of my male partners gave it to me and I love it. Sadly, I can relate on so many levels and have the good fortune of going through the school debacle as I read it.
I will call Mrs. Z; much appreciated. Perhaps it all will work out and I'll sens smoke signals after the ides of March. My husband thinks I lost my mind...perhaps he's right, but this certainly is not the predicating event. Thanks again. |
Anonymous
The preferred term is intellectually disabled, or developmentally delayed. Thanks for being conscious of it. I have a child with an ASD and a super high IQ who used to think of himself as "retarded" because he had been called that, so I really hate the word. Its a slur used not just against the intellectually disabled but any kid who is different. |