What percentage of the of all FCPS 3rd graders are accepted into 3rd grade AAP each year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the quibbling over numbers and percentages, the fact is there are TOO MANY KIDS IN AAP, period.

I'd gladly take my kid out of the center and send him back to the home/base school IF that school would separate kids for high/med/low levels for the different subjects. As it is, the so-called "differentiation" means the higher level kids get very little attention. They have adv. math -- but it isn't as advanced as the AAP center. The other subjects are not taught so that kids are expected to reach higher.

[Anonymous]

I have been researching for a while the answer for this question, and I can only find this report from FCPS. This is old ( 2011-2012) but it shows the average of acceptance rate. This is a long document, you 'll need to scroll down to the AAP section. So some of you were right about the high percentage of acceptance in certain schools, but not all.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/8VMDZN383162/$file/School%20Board%20Follow%20Up%20Reponses3.pdf

[Anonymous]

"Anonymous wrote:
Regardless of all the quibbling over numbers and percentages, the fact is there are TOO MANY KIDS IN AAP, period. "

" I'd gladly take my kid out of the center and send him back to the home/base school IF that school would separate kids for high/med/low levels for the different subjects. As it is, the so-called "differentiation" means the higher level kids get very little attention. They have adv. math -- but it isn't as advanced as the AAP center. The other subjects are not taught so that kids are expected to reach higher. "

+1000 Base schools are extremely different in different parts of the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I have been researching for a while the answer for this question, and I can only find this report from FCPS. This is old ( 2011-2012) but it shows the average of acceptance rate. This is a long document, you 'll need to scroll down to the AAP section. So some of you were right about the high percentage of acceptance in certain schools, but not all.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/8VMDZN383162/$file/School%20Board%20Follow%20Up%20Reponses3.pdf

Great find, PP.

It is interesting to compare centers -- such as Belvedere ES (total of 99 students in the AAP Center) with a larger center, such as Greenbriar West ES (total of 387 students in the AAP Center).

[Anonymous]

At our elementary there are 5 2nd grade classes (24-27kids each class) and 5-6 get accepted every year into AAP. The school essentially loses 25-30 kids a year, so 1 class. That's about 20% acceptance of entire grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I have been researching for a while the answer for this question, and I can only find this report from FCPS. This is old ( 2011-2012) but it shows the average of acceptance rate. This is a long document, you 'll need to scroll down to the AAP section. So some of you were right about the high percentage of acceptance in certain schools, but not all.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/8VMDZN383162/$file/School%20Board%20Follow%20Up%20Reponses3.pdf

Great find, PP.

It is interesting to compare centers -- such as Belvedere ES (total of 99 students in the AAP Center) with a larger center, such as Greenbriar West ES (total of 387 students in the AAP Center).

Yes. Belvedere seems to have only one AAP class per grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I have been researching for a while the answer for this question, and I can only find this report from FCPS. This is old ( 2011-2012) but it shows the average of acceptance rate. This is a long document, you 'll need to scroll down to the AAP section. So some of you were right about the high percentage of acceptance in certain schools, but not all.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/8VMDZN383162/$file/School%20Board%20Follow%20Up%20Reponses3.pdf

Great find, PP.

It is interesting to compare centers -- such as Belvedere ES (total of 99 students in the AAP Center) with a larger center, such as Greenbriar West ES (total of 387 students in the AAP Center).

Yes. Belvedere seems to have only one AAP class per grade.

Those numbers are very old. Belvedere currently has 9 AAP classes (3 each in 3rd, 4th and 5th grade). I'm not sure how many kids are in each class, but I'd estimate about 175 AAP students in all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I have been researching for a while the answer for this question, and I can only find this report from FCPS. This is old ( 2011-2012) but it shows the average of acceptance rate. This is a long document, you 'll need to scroll down to the AAP section. So some of you were right about the high percentage of acceptance in certain schools, but not all.

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/8VMDZN383162/$file/School%20Board%20Follow%20Up%20Reponses3.pdf

Great find, PP.

It is interesting to compare centers -- such as Belvedere ES (total of 99 students in the AAP Center) with a larger center, such as Greenbriar West ES (total of 387 students in the AAP Center).

Yes. Belvedere seems to have only one AAP class per grade.

But if you look at FCPS Dashboard, there are 9 AAP blocks showing for Belvedere (under Distribution and Feeder view).

http://www.fcps.edu/fts/dashboard/program/specialprogs14-15.html

Then when you look at AAP Transfer View, it shows 61 in 3rd grade, 67 in 4th grade, and 74 in 5th grade for a total of 202. Of course that totals across 10 feeder schools.

[Anonymous]

Acceptance is somewhat less that it used to be - since they changed the test. Thank goodness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of all the quibbling over numbers and percentages, the fact is there are TOO MANY KIDS IN AAP, period.

I don't think too many kids are in AAP, I just think AAP should just be labeled elementary honors. I think most of the kids in AAP can handle the curriculum, so I don't have a problem with them having access to it. I do think it's a farce to continue to pretend it's a a gifted program.

[Anonymous]

At our Vienna school the AAP teacher told me they lose 1/3 of the their 2nd grade each year to the AAP Center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At our Vienna school the AAP teacher told me they lose 1/3 of the their 2nd grade each year to the AAP Center.

That is simply insane. What used to be a very selective GT program, has morphed into something unrecognizable. The dynamic in schools has changed completely now that so many kids are admitted to AAP. FCPS has become a perfect example of the Sneetches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At our Vienna school the AAP teacher told me they lose 1/3 of the their 2nd grade each year to the AAP Center.

That is simply insane. What used to be a very selective GT program, has morphed into something unrecognizable. The dynamic in schools has changed completely now that so many kids are admitted to AAP. FCPS has become a perfect example of the Sneetches.

There is no school that I know of in Vienna where 1/3 of the class goes onto Louise Archer or Westbriar which are the center schools. Vienna probably comes close to having the most children at probably 1/4 to 1/5 of the 2nd grade class, but it's a small school, so unless the boundaries are changed, it would not be able to provide anywhere near one full class of AAP eligible students. There are typically only 2-3 classes per grade in Vienna.

[Anonymous]

Our Vienna School has 3 2nd grade classes and it drops to 2 in 3rd grade. They lose typically 1 out of 3 classes after 2nd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our Vienna School has 3 2nd grade classes and it drops to 2 in 3rd grade. They lose typically 1 out of 3 classes after 2nd.

The number of students per class changes from second to third grade, so that could explain the difference people are seeing in terms of percentage lost to the AAP center.