Best test prep book for the NNAT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian cultures don't acknowledge that there IS such a thing as 'giftedness'. Instead, kids are believed to be intelligent because they are hard working. Giftedness as some kind of innate quality is actually a Western concept that is going to be alien to many groups coming for other cultures. Test prep is the norm in places like Korea and the Philippines because it's based on a different notion of what intelligence is. By the way, Asians would laugh in your face if you tried to explain that your child was differently gifted or had multiple intelligences.

don't know if i should laugh or cry.... how did you even come up with that complete BS

[Anonymous]

Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries?

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry.

It is quite silly really.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores.

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning.

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries?

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry.

It is quite silly really.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores.

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning.

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers.

Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries? Yes but if people are hypocritical and just attack Asians for outperforming whites saying all they do is prep. while whites are prepping more for even younger kids, there will not be any surpassing or competing.

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry. Don't assume all or almost all Asians prep for AAP. Asians typically start to prep for high school not in 2nd grade. You are stereotyping.

It is quite silly really. It is silly to attack Asians as doing nothing but prepping and turn around and prep 7 year olds.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores. if your kid was placed in AAP without prepping, why do you care whether people prep or not? Why bother defending people who prep?

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning. How do you know with certainty which kids prepped and which kids did not prep? If so, how do you know whether prepped kids dilute the program or not?

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers. You are stereotyping again. Don't assume Asians are hard at work prepping. Whites do more prepping at an earlier age obsessed with AAP. Don't be prejudiced.

[Anonymous]

I think it is funny that someone out there is posting frequently lately that some people are "secretly" prepping with tutors at home that no one knows about. They seem to be
1) hoping that if you say it often enough, people will accept that it is true, and,
2)they know that it is difficult for anyone to prove this wrong, since it is such a big "secret." I can say that I don't know anyone who does this, but someone can come back and say, "Well, you wouldn't know, because it is secret!"

The fact is, though, that I have never heard of anyone hiring a private tutor to secretly come to the home to prep a child for the AAP tests. No way to prove it doesn't happen, of course, but it sounds patently ridiculous.

We do know that classes exist specifically for prepping for these tests. Many of us have seen the ads for classes and or materials. I would not use these services myself as I think it is inappropriate because it changes the result of a test when kids have already seen the types of questions ahead of time and spent time practicing how to do them.

You don't really learn anything about how well a child processes new information when they have already seen the same type of information in advance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian cultures don't acknowledge that there IS such a thing as 'giftedness'. Instead, kids are believed to be intelligent because they are hard working. Giftedness as some kind of innate quality is actually a Western concept that is going to be alien to many groups coming for other cultures. Test prep is the norm in places like Korea and the Philippines because it's based on a different notion of what intelligence is. By the way, Asians would laugh in your face if you tried to explain that your child was differently gifted or had multiple intelligences.

I am not Asian but this is what I have come to believe and what I tell my kids. It is also why I give my kids extra school work to do at home throughout the year (including summer).

[Anonymous]

Here is test prep offered for a large fee for NNAT, COGAT and TJ etc. I don't know why people on the AAP board have so much trouble with this question.

http://www.youngscholarscircle.com/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian cultures don't acknowledge that there IS such a thing as 'giftedness'. Instead, kids are believed to be intelligent because they are hard working. Giftedness as some kind of innate quality is actually a Western concept that is going to be alien to many groups coming for other cultures. Test prep is the norm in places like Korea and the Philippines because it's based on a different notion of what intelligence is. By the way, Asians would laugh in your face if you tried to explain that your child was differently gifted or had multiple intelligences.

Asian poster here. The above is completely false. Asians do acknowledge there is a difference in innate intelligence level. Asians also believe in hard work. When high intelligence is combined with hard work, even better. Stop spreading false information.

[Anonymous]

My neighbor has had her two children in a daycare/preschool that is specifically geared toward prepping for AAP admittance tests. The oldest child will be in 2nd grade this year and will undoubtedly test into AAP because she's been exposed since day one to all the information she needs to score well on the tests. Seems ridiculous to say these kids are in any way "gifted". Like so many other kids in this area, they've simply been taught to do well on these tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries?

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry.

It is quite silly really.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores.

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning.

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers.

Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries? Yes but if people are hypocritical and just attack Asians for outperforming whites saying all they do is prep. while whites are prepping more for even younger kids, there will not be any surpassing or competing.

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry. Don't assume all or almost all Asians prep for AAP. Asians typically start to prep for high school not in 2nd grade. You are stereotyping.

It is quite silly really. It is silly to attack Asians as doing nothing but prepping and turn around and prep 7 year olds.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores. if your kid was placed in AAP without prepping, why do you care whether people prep or not? Why bother defending people who prep?

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning. How do you know with certainty which kids prepped and which kids did not prep? If so, how do you know whether prepped kids dilute the program or not?


You assume quite a bit.
Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers. You are stereotyping again. Don't assume Asians are hard at work prepping. Whites do more prepping at an earlier age obsessed with AAP. Don't be prejudiced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian cultures don't acknowledge that there IS such a thing as 'giftedness'. Instead, kids are believed to be intelligent because they are hard working. Giftedness as some kind of innate quality is actually a Western concept that is going to be alien to many groups coming for other cultures. Test prep is the norm in places like Korea and the Philippines because it's based on a different notion of what intelligence is. By the way, Asians would laugh in your face if you tried to explain that your child was differently gifted or had multiple intelligences.

Asian poster here. The above is completely false. Asians do acknowledge there is a difference in innate intelligence level. Asians also believe in hard work. When high intelligence is combined with hard work, even better. Stop spreading false information.

I agree, I'm Irish and think that too. Our kids study hard (or prep if you prefer).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most Asian cultures don't acknowledge that there IS such a thing as 'giftedness'. Instead, kids are believed to be intelligent because they are hard working. Giftedness as some kind of innate quality is actually a Western concept that is going to be alien to many groups coming for other cultures. Test prep is the norm in places like Korea and the Philippines because it's based on a different notion of what intelligence is. By the way, Asians would laugh in your face if you tried to explain that your child was differently gifted or had multiple intelligences.

Asian poster here. The above is completely false. Asians do acknowledge there is a difference in innate intelligence level. Asians also believe in hard work. When high intelligence is combined with hard work, even better. Stop spreading false information.

I agree, I'm Irish and think that too. Our kids study hard (or prep if you prefer).

Studying is not prepping.

Studying is going over material you have learned until you understand it deeply and hopefully completely.

Prepping is going over specific kinds of test questions so you can do well on a specific test. It may include tricks or shortcuts that teach students how to eliminate certain answers and make educated guesses.

Studying helps increase your knowledge. Prepping helps you game/perform on a test.

[Anonymous]

Korean-American here. Tested high on every test ever given to me and was told I was gifted since I was 4. DH, on the other hand, learned to read late, needed speech therapy and was told he was stupid when he was young. DH was driven and worked very hard. He is an ivy league educated doctor. Asian posters above are correct. Asian parents believe in hard work. I'm not a hard worker and very American. Hoping my kids take after DH and not me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Korean-American here. Tested high on every test ever given to me and was told I was gifted since I was 4. DH, on the other hand, learned to read late, needed speech therapy and was told he was stupid when he was young. DH was driven and worked very hard. He is an ivy league educated doctor. Asian posters above are correct. Asian parents believe in hard work. I'm not a hard worker and very American. Hoping my kids take after DH and not me.

I posted earlier. I agree.

Signed lazy but very high testing second generation Asian American.

[Anonymous]

Why did you add all that nonsense into the middle of my post?

If you are going to respond to someone's post by typing in the middle of it, highlight, italicize or bold your responses so that it doesn't look like gibberish.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries?

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry.

It is quite silly really.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores.

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning.

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers.

Isn't our goal to compete with and surpass asian countries? Yes but if people are hypocritical and just attack Asians for outperforming whites saying all they do is prep. while whites are prepping more for even younger kids, there will not be any surpassing or competing.

Yet when people approach education the way the asian countries do, people here start to cry. Don't assume all or almost all Asians prep for AAP. Asians typically start to prep for high school not in 2nd grade. You are stereotyping.

It is quite silly really. It is silly to attack Asians as doing nothing but prepping and turn around and prep 7 year olds.

My kid was placed in AAP through non prepped test scores only, like other out of state transfers. Not work samples. Not teacher evaluations.They only look at the scores. if your kid was placed in AAP without prepping, why do you care whether people prep or not? Why bother defending people who prep?

As a parent with a naturally very high scoring student, I can say with certainty that those allegedly prepped kids did nothing to dilute the program. In fact, they often led the class and were very impressive with their work ethic and overall approach to learning. How do you know with certainty which kids prepped and which kids did not prep? If so, how do you know whether prepped kids dilute the program or not?

Our non prepped kids can all learn quite a bit from those hard working preppers. You are stereotyping again. Don't assume Asians are hard at work prepping. Whites do more prepping at an earlier age obsessed with AAP. Don't be prejudiced.

[Anonymous]

Is the AAP prep daycare really a thing? lol omg