Deal v DCI

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Anonymous wrote:DCI. The overcrowding at Deal impacts everything from academics to behaviors, etc….

Where is the data that suggests overcrowding at Deal impacts academics? Genuinely curious. This thread suggest Deal is the highest performing middle school in the city for academics.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/135/1151471.page

(Posts at 6:14 and 6:32)

You are being obtuse. Of course it affects academics when you have large class sizes, can’t get courses you need, have no subs when teachers leave, etc…

You are comparing the wrong thing. Get out of your bubble. The standards in DC are so low. Look at the similar SES group and neighborhood in the burbs and compare scores.

The best middle school in the city you are talking about is really just mediocre at best.

??? What is the point of comparing public middle schools in the city with those in the suburbs? Are you living in DC and sending your kid to a public middle school in the suburbs? How are you pulling that off?

I’m the PP. You are completely missing the point which is that the severe overcrowding at Deal comprises EVERYTHING and degrades your kids experience overall.

Just search this site of all the parents complaining of not having teachers, behavioral issues, bathroom issues, whatever. In fact there is one now if the science yea her who left. Now some issues might be related to the dysfunctional hell that is DCPS and not totally schools fault but you can’t get away from it.

I’m assuming DCI parents are happier and in a calmer environment because you don’t hear any of that from them.

Also the point that the PP boasts how it’s the best middle school is that you need to get perspective. You need to compare it to a school with similar SES and real estate and apples to apples. Then you see just how the best is really lacking and why so many families in ward 3 with options opt out and go private or move.

And some have chosen DCI like posters here have mentioned

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI. The overcrowding at Deal impacts everything from academics to behaviors, etc….

Where is the data that suggests overcrowding at Deal impacts academics? Genuinely curious. This thread suggest Deal is the highest performing middle school in the city for academics.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/135/1151471.page

(Posts at 6:14 and 6:32)

You are being obtuse. Of course it affects academics when you have large class sizes, can’t get courses you need, have no subs when teachers leave, etc…

You are comparing the wrong thing. Get out of your bubble. The standards in DC are so low. Look at the similar SES group and neighborhood in the burbs and compare scores.

The best middle school in the city you are talking about is really just mediocre at best.

??? What is the point of comparing public middle schools in the city with those in the suburbs? Are you living in DC and sending your kid to a public middle school in the suburbs? How are you pulling that off?

I’m the PP. You are completely missing the point which is that the severe overcrowding at Deal comprises EVERYTHING and degrades your kids experience overall.

Just search this site of all the parents complaining of not having teachers, behavioral issues, bathroom issues, whatever. In fact there is one now if the science yea her who left. Now some issues might be related to the dysfunctional hell that is DCPS and not totally schools fault but you can’t get away from it.

I’m assuming DCI parents are happier and in a calmer environment because you don’t hear any of that from them.

Also the point that the PP boasts how it’s the best middle school is that you need to get perspective. You need to compare it to a school with similar SES and real estate and apples to apples. Then you see just how the best is really lacking and why so many families in ward 3 with options opt out and go private or move.

You can't make that assumption because the parent populations at DCI and Deal are very different. Deal is primarily full of families that chose to buy in-bounds for the schools and are coming from the best performing elementary schools in the city. DCI is primarily full of families that lucked into a lottery seat in elementary school, and knew they could either deal with the school(s) as-is, or leave. They came from elementary schools with weaker academics than Deal feeders, and prioritized staying in the city and "making the schools work" over moving or paying for private. That's why Deal parents complain loudly and DCI parents vote with their feet (or don't).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI. The overcrowding at Deal impacts everything from academics to behaviors, etc….

Where is the data that suggests overcrowding at Deal impacts academics? Genuinely curious. This thread suggest Deal is the highest performing middle school in the city for academics.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/135/1151471.page

(Posts at 6:14 and 6:32)

You are being obtuse. Of course it affects academics when you have large class sizes, can’t get courses you need, have no subs when teachers leave, etc…

You are comparing the wrong thing. Get out of your bubble. The standards in DC are so low. Look at the similar SES group and neighborhood in the burbs and compare scores.

The best middle school in the city you are talking about is really just mediocre at best.

??? What is the point of comparing public middle schools in the city with those in the suburbs? Are you living in DC and sending your kid to a public middle school in the suburbs? How are you pulling that off?

I’m the PP. You are completely missing the point which is that the severe overcrowding at Deal comprises EVERYTHING and degrades your kids experience overall.

Just search this site of all the parents complaining of not having teachers, behavioral issues, bathroom issues, whatever. In fact there is one now if the science yea her who left. Now some issues might be related to the dysfunctional hell that is DCPS and not totally schools fault but you can’t get away from it.

I’m assuming DCI parents are happier and in a calmer environment because you don’t hear any of that from them.

Also the point that the PP boasts how it’s the best middle school is that you need to get perspective. You need to compare it to a school with similar SES and real estate and apples to apples. Then you see just how the best is really lacking and why so many families in ward 3 with options opt out and go private or move.

You can't make that assumption because the parent populations at DCI and Deal are very different. Deal is primarily full of families that chose to buy in-bounds for the schools and are coming from the best performing elementary schools in the city. DCI is primarily full of families that lucked into a lottery seat in elementary school, and knew they could either deal with the school(s) as-is, or leave. They came from elementary schools with weaker academics than Deal feeders, and prioritized staying in the city and "making the schools work" over moving or paying for private. That's why Deal parents complain loudly and DCI parents vote with their feet (or don't).

I'm a DCI parent and there may be something to that. Also, I think DCI parents are much more disconnected from each other and so they don't feed into each other's frustrations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCI. The overcrowding at Deal impacts everything from academics to behaviors, etc….

Where is the data that suggests overcrowding at Deal impacts academics? Genuinely curious. This thread suggest Deal is the highest performing middle school in the city for academics.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/135/1151471.page

(Posts at 6:14 and 6:32)

You are being obtuse. Of course it affects academics when you have large class sizes, can’t get courses you need, have no subs when teachers leave, etc…

You are comparing the wrong thing. Get out of your bubble. The standards in DC are so low. Look at the similar SES group and neighborhood in the burbs and compare scores.

The best middle school in the city you are talking about is really just mediocre at best.

??? What is the point of comparing public middle schools in the city with those in the suburbs? Are you living in DC and sending your kid to a public middle school in the suburbs? How are you pulling that off?

I’m the PP. You are completely missing the point which is that the severe overcrowding at Deal comprises EVERYTHING and degrades your kids experience overall.

Just search this site of all the parents complaining of not having teachers, behavioral issues, bathroom issues, whatever. In fact there is one now if the science yea her who left. Now some issues might be related to the dysfunctional hell that is DCPS and not totally schools fault but you can’t get away from it.

I’m assuming DCI parents are happier and in a calmer environment because you don’t hear any of that from them.

Also the point that the PP boasts how it’s the best middle school is that you need to get perspective. You need to compare it to a school with similar SES and real estate and apples to apples. Then you see just how the best is really lacking and why so many families in ward 3 with options opt out and go private or move.

You can't make that assumption because the parent populations at DCI and Deal are very different. Deal is primarily full of families that chose to buy in-bounds for the schools and are coming from the best performing elementary schools in the city. DCI is primarily full of families that lucked into a lottery seat in elementary school, and knew they could either deal with the school(s) as-is, or leave. They came from elementary schools with weaker academics than Deal feeders, and prioritized staying in the city and "making the schools work" over moving or paying for private. That's why Deal parents complain loudly and DCI parents vote with their feet (or don't).

Sorry but your premise is flawed. Plenty of families on here that lucked out in the lottery in the feeder elementary schools complain like hell on this board.

BTW, same could be said for Basis. It is definitely less so for DCI and Latin.

Deal is a hot mess and JR is even worst.

OP go to DCI and see if you like the school. It’s your one and only chance. You can go to Deal anytime and this gives you a year to talk to your neighbors whose kids go to Deal and you will see.