List of big US companies that are religious

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What is your point in listing this? Do you think people shouldn't shop anywhere that has management who aren't atheist or agnostic?

If this about choosing to shop only at stores where people share your faith or lack thereof then really you need to list the faith/non faith beliefs of every owner/CEO. Also some of the people on the list are identified as having a faith and others as incorporating their faith and beliefs into their business. They are lumped together. Advocating for not patronizing a business simply because the owner doesn't share your faith is pretty discriminatory. As it is when people post lists of companies owned /run my Muslims.


You're missing the point. It's not just about companies that are religious, but what kinds of religious ideology that you're supporting, as a customer. I wouldn't support a homophobic and misogynistic company that justified their practices with religion (and most of the companies in that list do let ideology transcend into company policy). It doesn't matter if they're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Ancient Egyptian, Mayan, or what label they call themselves.


So what religious ideology do you object to in Tom Chappell and Jeff Swatz's business practices?

Do you believe therefore that a person that has a faith should only patronize other establishments that share their faith?

Seeing as you are working under the assumption that if someone has a faith that the ideology stemming from their faith transcends into company policy then it must be very restrictive to in fact shop only in places that have owners and CEO that are non religious. As only 18% of DC residents identity as not having a religious (as atheist, agnostic or non-religious), similar to the national average of 20%, it must be quite time consuming to research and only frequent establishments run by other the same as you. I think you have every right to do so, I just don't share your viewpoint. My corner store is owned by a Muslim family and I wouldn't think to boycott them due to not sharing their beliefs. I think interacting with people of other faiths and with people are are different than ourselves is a positive thing and to go out of your way to shun others who believe differently is unfortunate.


I come from a multi-religious family (Catholic & Muslim), so I know all about interacting with people of different faiths. But that goes both ways - it isn't just the religious (or certain religious persons) who are deserving of respect. But I wouldn't patron a business if I were aware that they oppose some of my most core beliefs. I'm more than happy to extend an initial hand towards understanding, but If they don't support me, why should I support them?


I am the Pp you are replying to and agree that everyone is deserving of respect, and I haven't said otherwise. You don't have to support anyone you don't wish to, for valid or invalid reasons. You have a very different tone than the OP / subsequent PP and make a different point. If you have a personal issue with a business and it would be against your conscious to patronize it, then don't. However posting a list of businesses with the sole criteria being they are owned by people who have a faith (when OP likely knows little about the business practices of many of them) with the only point being these businesses shouldn't be patronized because the person who owns it has a faith and the assumptions about their practices is (in my opinion) unfortunate, discriminatory (not in the legal sense) and detrimental to building tolerance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is your point in listing this? Do you think people shouldn't shop anywhere that has management who aren't atheist or agnostic?

If this about choosing to shop only at stores where people share your faith or lack thereof then really you need to list the faith/non faith beliefs of every owner/CEO. Also some of the people on the list are identified as having a faith and others as incorporating their faith and beliefs into their business. They are lumped together. Advocating for not patronizing a business simply because the owner doesn't share your faith is pretty discriminatory. As it is when people post lists of companies owned /run my Muslims.


You're missing the point. It's not just about companies that are religious, but what kinds of religious ideology that you're supporting, as a customer. I wouldn't support a homophobic and misogynistic company that justified their practices with religion (and most of the companies in that list do let ideology transcend into company policy). It doesn't matter if they're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Ancient Egyptian, Mayan, or what label they call themselves.


I am guessing you are very young, PP. Maybe right out of college? In your early 20s? You sound so narrow minded; you can't possibly have much life experience yet.

You know, they are wonderful companies.

They treat their employees well and they treat their customers well. Many of them make stands against business practices that are abhorrent, such as not moving their manufacturing to countries like China which have terrible human rights records.

In and Out Burger for example, is supposed to be a fantastic place to work for. In the world of fast food, their jobs are very sought after. Doesn't sound like a discriminatory business to me.

Regardless, what a sad, sad narrow little world you must live in if you only see fit so associate with those who are exactly like you, and if you refuse to see anything but the negative in those who might happen to believe differently than you do.


One must love the ad-hominem hurling religious. Bless your heart!


+1 it never takes long for a religious person to start the name calling!

OP thankyou for the link. some i know of, some I did not.
Anonymous
OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


Ah, religion, the justification for all of the above. Perfect vehicle for wealth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


Most of the management and owners are independent franchises.

You know nothing about what they believe, how they act, and how their businesses behave.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is your point in listing this? Do you think people shouldn't shop anywhere that has management who aren't atheist or agnostic?

If this about choosing to shop only at stores where people share your faith or lack thereof then really you need to list the faith/non faith beliefs of every owner/CEO. Also some of the people on the list are identified as having a faith and others as incorporating their faith and beliefs into their business. They are lumped together. Advocating for not patronizing a business simply because the owner doesn't share your faith is pretty discriminatory. As it is when people post lists of companies owned /run my Muslims.


You're missing the point. It's not just about companies that are religious, but what kinds of religious ideology that you're supporting, as a customer. I wouldn't support a homophobic and misogynistic company that justified their practices with religion (and most of the companies in that list do let ideology transcend into company policy). It doesn't matter if they're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Ancient Egyptian, Mayan, or what label they call themselves.


Oh please


totally!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, I am always amazed that the people screaming the loudest about other's intolerance are unable to see their own intolerance.


Sorry, but the circular logic of protesting being intolerant of intolerance doesn't work the way you think it should.


Haha! I love catching these types of things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


So PP, do you not eat out anymore? Anywhere?

I don't see how you can find many good restaurants to eat at in this city if your line in the sand is that the owners or management cannot be religious and supportive of traditional marriage.

It rules out all the middle eastern restaurants, or businesses owned or run by those who practice Islam. Darn. That is some good food. But we can't eat or patronize businesses that just might have religious owners or managers.

Most Christian owned businesses too. Even secularly owned businesses, because you never know if that company might have accidentally hired a practicing Baptist or a Morman.

How do Hindus feel about gay marriage? Ooops, 50/50% chance you can't eat at any Indian restaurants. Damn!

Buddhists? Got to cut our some of those businesses too.

Well, let's patronize the Jewish establishments. Wait, no, not the ones owned by Orthodox Jews. Well, crap.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


I refuse to eat there because I just don't like the sandwiches. Never been sure why people thought it was good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is your point in listing this? Do you think people shouldn't shop anywhere that has management who aren't atheist or agnostic?

If this about choosing to shop only at stores where people share your faith or lack thereof then really you need to list the faith/non faith beliefs of every owner/CEO. Also some of the people on the list are identified as having a faith and others as incorporating their faith and beliefs into their business. They are lumped together. Advocating for not patronizing a business simply because the owner doesn't share your faith is pretty discriminatory. As it is when people post lists of companies owned /run my Muslims.


You're missing the point. It's not just about companies that are religious, but what kinds of religious ideology that you're supporting, as a customer. I wouldn't support a homophobic and misogynistic company that justified their practices with religion (and most of the companies in that list do let ideology transcend into company policy). It doesn't matter if they're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Ancient Egyptian, Mayan, or what label they call themselves.


Oh please


Oh please, feel free to ignore if it doesn't interest you.


No, I think we have an obligation to call you out on your bullshit. You named, and what's implied is an attempt to shame.

But, really, shame on you. Are you really that narrow-minded? That provincial? That insecure about your own beliefs? Get a grip.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


Huh?

Have you done any research?

Dan Cathy loves him the gays now:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-l-windmeyer/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379.html

I'm being a little flip, of course. But, really, I think this was a genuine effort to reach across and look past his own biases.

Maybe you should too? Instead of being such a know-it-all, righteous, rigid shithead all the time?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I hear you. I refuse to give Chik-fil-a (sp ?) my business anymore because the owners/management are religious, homophobic, discriminatory shitheads.


So PP, do you not eat out anymore? Anywhere?

I don't see how you can find many good restaurants to eat at in this city if your line in the sand is that the owners or management cannot be religious and supportive of traditional marriage.

It rules out all the middle eastern restaurants, or businesses owned or run by those who practice Islam. Darn. That is some good food. But we can't eat or patronize businesses that just might have religious owners or managers.

Most Christian owned businesses too. Even secularly owned businesses, because you never know if that company might have accidentally hired a practicing Baptist or a Morman.

How do Hindus feel about gay marriage? Ooops, 50/50% chance you can't eat at any Indian restaurants. Damn!

Buddhists? Got to cut our some of those businesses too.

Well, let's patronize the Jewish establishments. Wait, no, not the ones owned by Orthodox Jews. Well, crap.


Nothing like a good Jewish deli. OP won't patronize one though. What is the word for that again? Oh yeah... anti-semite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I don't think it's a big deal if a company prints a Bible verse on it's coffee cups.

What would be more disturbing to me would be in the case of Prop 8 in California where 2/3 of the donations against same sex marriage came from Utah: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/01/local/me-gaymarriage1





This article does not mention the 2/3 from Utah. The only thing I saw was the guy fron Utah who gave $1 million in support of gay marriage.

In reality it's was less than half of out of state contributions which equaled to a even smaller percentage of total contributions.

And yes I'm a Mormon and I also support gay rights as do a small but growing percentage of my church. I love my church even if I don't fully agree on this one aspect. Even thoose who don't agree are not bigoted. As a matter of fact the church just came out in support of the Boy Scouts decision on gays in scouts. I hate when people spew out false information as fact.
Anonymous
Forgot to add http://projects.latimes.com/prop8/
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