Barry - Season 4. - jumped the shark?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was enjoying it until the future started.

Funny, I was the opposite. I had no idea how they would do Season 4; season 3 wrapped things up so well.

But I thought that was a creative way to continue the story

[Anonymous]

No I love it!

[Anonymous]

I find myself looking forward to the Hank scenes more than anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find myself looking forward to the Hank scenes more than anything else.

+1

[Anonymous]

DH and I were just talking about how we'll be glad when it's over. There are still things about the show I like, but it's so dark and twisted and it's unclear that they have anything else to say other than "yeah, Barry is really messed up and so are a lot of these other people in his orbit." The Hank stuff has been funny but also feels pretty nihilistic. Just not clear what the point was of making this 4th season.

Also, I am not a delicate TV watcher but even I find all the stuff with his son on the new season really upsetting and disturbing. Like this kid has, honestly, the worst possible parents and life. There is something messed up about introducing a new character at this stage in the show only to do this to him. Again, it feels nihilistic. I feel like something awful is going to happen to that kid (or he will do something awful) and I won't want to watch. Or alternatively they'll give him a happy ending, which is totally unrealistic for a show that is basically about how past trauma can really screw you up. It feels like there's no good way out of the plot thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DH and I were just talking about how we'll be glad when it's over. There are still things about the show I like, but it's so dark and twisted and it's unclear that they have anything else to say other than "yeah, Barry is really messed up and so are a lot of these other people in his orbit." The Hank stuff has been funny but also feels pretty nihilistic. Just not clear what the point was of making this 4th season.

Also, I am not a delicate TV watcher but even I find all the stuff with his son on the new season really upsetting and disturbing. Like this kid has, honestly, the worst possible parents and life. There is something messed up about introducing a new character at this stage in the show only to do this to him. Again, it feels nihilistic. I feel like something awful is going to happen to that kid (or he will do something awful) and I won't want to watch. Or alternatively they'll give him a happy ending, which is totally unrealistic for a show that is basically about how past trauma can really screw you up. It feels like there's no good way out of the plot thread.

I agree with this and I'm kind of hoping that the son is imaginary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DH and I were just talking about how we'll be glad when it's over. There are still things about the show I like, but it's so dark and twisted and it's unclear that they have anything else to say other than "yeah, Barry is really messed up and so are a lot of these other people in his orbit." The Hank stuff has been funny but also feels pretty nihilistic. Just not clear what the point was of making this 4th season.

Also, I am not a delicate TV watcher but even I find all the stuff with his son on the new season really upsetting and disturbing. Like this kid has, honestly, the worst possible parents and life. There is something messed up about introducing a new character at this stage in the show only to do this to him. Again, it feels nihilistic. I feel like something awful is going to happen to that kid (or he will do something awful) and I won't want to watch. Or alternatively they'll give him a happy ending, which is totally unrealistic for a show that is basically about how past trauma can really screw you up. It feels like there's no good way out of the plot thread.

I agree with this and I'm kind of hoping that the son is imaginary.

+100

I was talking to DH about this last night. It's so depressing that the kid's mother is a depressed alcoholic waitress who chokes randoms in the bathroom and his Dad is a weird Lincoln obsessed shut in. I can't help but think that all of it is connected to the flashbacks Barry had about his childhood with his Dad in the fields but it's WAY too dark for me.

[Anonymous]

I wasn't even sure how they would construct a season 4.

And then there were times were it felt like the wheels were coming off.

But at the end, I thought the finale was absolutely fantastic. Never saw it coming. It was just great. I've been thinking about that episode for the last few days

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't even sure how they would construct a season 4.

And then there were times were it felt like the wheels were coming off.

But at the end, I thought the finale was absolutely fantastic. Never saw it coming. It was just great. I've been thinking about that episode for the last few days

It was really a perfect finale. Dark, funny, perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't even sure how they would construct a season 4.

And then there were times were it felt like the wheels were coming off.

But at the end, I thought the finale was absolutely fantastic. Never saw it coming. It was just great. I've been thinking about that episode for the last few days

It was really a perfect finale. Dark, funny, perfect.

I laughed so hard. Could not believe they just ended it like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't even sure how they would construct a season 4.

And then there were times were it felt like the wheels were coming off.

But at the end, I thought the finale was absolutely fantastic. Never saw it coming. It was just great. I've been thinking about that episode for the last few days

It was really a perfect finale. Dark, funny, perfect.

I laughed so hard. Could not believe they just ended it like that.

I know. I don't want to spoil anything but that one moment I was just like "....oh!.....well, okay....that seems about right for this show...."

And the thing is, they could have ended it there and it still would have been a great ending. But the fast forward to the kid at this friends house. That really was a perfect ending

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wasn't even sure how they would construct a season 4.

And then there were times were it felt like the wheels were coming off.

But at the end, I thought the finale was absolutely fantastic. Never saw it coming. It was just great. I've been thinking about that episode for the last few days

It was really a perfect finale. Dark, funny, perfect.

I laughed so hard. Could not believe they just ended it like that.

I know. I don't want to spoil anything but that one moment I was just like "....oh!.....well, okay....that seems about right for this show...."

And the thing is, they could have ended it there and it still would have been a great ending. But the fast forward to the kid at this friends house. That really was a perfect ending

The "Oh, OK" was incredible and definitely would have been enough. But oh man seeing what became of Sally - and how she is exactly the same; we never change, do we! - then the son watching the movie, and what that movie was like. And oh gosh it really was all just perfect.

The shootout at Noho Hank's HQ was amazing, too. And Fuches's good, redemptive turn, there at the end.

It was great. This show was really a masterpiece.

[Anonymous]

The 3rd season was pretty bad. This last season was terrible. I only stuck with it to see how it ended, but it had definitely lost all the qualities that made the first season so good.

[Anonymous]

The film version of their life at the end was a step too far for me. I was quite happy to see Sally the HS Theater teacher basking in small town theater glory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The film version of their life at the end was a step too far for me. I was quite happy to see Sally the HS Theater teacher basking in small town theater glory.

I disagree. I thought the film ending was the perfect ending for Cousineau. As the guy that always tried to lie and control the narrative around his life; for that to be the public story was just incredible.

I do agree that the ending for Sally was perfect though. The subtlety of it is what makes it amazing.