If people - especially competent people - won't take the job, then the pay is too low. It doesn't really matter what you think "mid" pay is in theory. A good teacher is educated in their subject matter, educated in pedagogy for their classroom age band, has practical experience and fairly high EQ, passes a background check, works in person (and largely on their feet) and interacts with the public. That is an expensive job description. |
Careful, you're turning into white noise. Why don't you do something about that? |
Shocker, anger without constructive suggestions. Staying on theme. |
Not angry, that's projection.
What you are doing is no more or less useful than what you are complaining that teachers do. If you don't like it, leave -- but if you stay, shut up. Or at least that is the message, right? You should take your own advice, you know. (And I am not a teacher, nor have I ever been.) |
Why would I be angry? I have a job I love and get paid well for. And I had to make several strategic moves to get here when I felt a job was lacking in some way. My point is that getting to a job I love took active effort, not just saying I deserve more. I’m not sure why you think I’m telling teachers to shut up. Quite the opposite, I’m asking for constructive, specific ways that parents can help on a larger level that address the bigger issues that seem to plaque teachers. Vague complaining never got anyone anything. Teachers need to rebrand their message to include specific suggestions for parents to elevate these issues and advocate on behalf of teachers. Every parent I know would want to help, but emailing the school board to say “Teachers should get paid more” doesn’t seem like a particularly effective campaign. I get it, it’s easier to be mad on behalf of teachers and think you’re “helping” with your anger, rather than say “Hey, teachers, what can I do to help you?” Because then you’d have to do more than virtue signal on an anonymous website. You do you. |
NP here. You don't get it. Things are beyond teachers banding together to make things better at the bargaining table. We know what needs to be done and actively choose not to do it. I used to teach and serve as an organizer in the teachers union on the Maryland side. All the committees and meetings in the world cannot fix this disaster. The whole thing is on fire. Get out it is everyone for themselves. Teachers are no longer going to stick it out and hope for better. Expect more chaotic auditoriums and cafeterias full of hundreds of students. |
Someone needs a 4th grade reading comprehension class. She’s not a teacher, and she has never been a teacher. |
That’s what happening, they are leaving. |
Haha. Honey, I’m 15 years in and can’t afford a two bedroom anything - apartment, condo, TH - under an hour+ away. The roach-infested apartment I live in now costs 55% of my monthly pay. I teach after school and in the summer to make ends meet. Haven’t been on ANY vacation in 15 years and drive a 2005 Camry. Tell me how great the pay is again. |
Leave? That’s the solution? Consider it done - that’s exactly what teachers ARE doing. That’s why there’s a shortage. |
Bingo! |
We need to get students with discipline problems out of the classroom, not for a day but long-term, so that we can actually teach. I don’t know how to solve that problem as a teacher because of IEPs, LRE, BIPs and FBA requirements. If you have any ideas as a parent, please feel free to step in. It’s not just about disciplining students. It is a cultural change with how parents raise their kids and how we treat students with mental illness. |
yes and it's more than the IEP's....it's good kids who whine and complain all day about having to learn. Kids who are disrespectful and call you mean for trying to teach and if you talked to Mom and Dad they will blame teacher./admin. Educators are done with the nonsense. |
A lot of people think counselors sit in their office all day long, but in fact, they are probably the busiest employees in the building. The counselors that I work with have students with them for the entire entirety of the day. In addition, the nurse is often helping students with medications, etc. I’ve seen the principal and the assistant principal substitute sometimes. |
All hands on deck. Agree. |