Outdoor lab - safety

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be a day trip. Having 5th graders in the woods overnight with only loose supervision is obviously a terrible idea.

I mean boy scouts and girl scouts both sleep in tents without adults in them. In fact boys scouts have very strict rules against adults sleeping in tents with kids (obviously). It may surprise you but most 10 and 11 year olds don't want to wander around the woods at night.

And it’s a bad idea when Boy and Girl Scouts do it too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be a day trip. Having 5th graders in the woods overnight with only loose supervision is obviously a terrible idea.

I mean boy scouts and girl scouts both sleep in tents without adults in them. In fact boys scouts have very strict rules against adults sleeping in tents with kids (obviously). It may surprise you but most 10 and 11 year olds don't want to wander around the woods at night.

I mean Boy Scouts is the epitome of protecting children from sexual abuse, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be a day trip. Having 5th graders in the woods overnight with only loose supervision is obviously a terrible idea.

I mean boy scouts and girl scouts both sleep in tents without adults in them. In fact boys scouts have very strict rules against adults sleeping in tents with kids (obviously). It may surprise you but most 10 and 11 year olds don't want to wander around the woods at night.

I mean Boy Scouts is the epitome of protecting children from sexual abuse, right?

The rules have been in place SINCE the scandal. Before adults were allowed in tents with kids and sex abuse happened. Adults are generally the predators not kids (obviously exceptions).

Anyway, don't send your kid if you don't feel safe.

[Anonymous]

With a budget of almost 800K + other additional administrator fees. This is for a staff that goes home at night and an onsite admin that is only capable of little more than answering the phone and occasionally barking at kids while picking up a hot dog off the ground to pass off as a rustic meal? Meanwhile teachers are required to volunteer to be away from their own families and planning time. While being held liable for the safety of their students during questionable program. Oh yes, if you don't feel safe, don't send your kid and be labeled overprotective. But in the meantime APS would gladly throw your tax dollars away. I'd rather take my kid out on the weekend or to a local nature center and not have my child abused, Thanks!

[Anonymous]

800K?!?

How are we still paying for this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:800K?!?

How are we still paying for this?

Isn't the APS budget 750 million? It is less than 1% of the overall budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This should be a day trip. Having 5th graders in the woods overnight with only loose supervision is obviously a terrible idea.

I mean boy scouts and girl scouts both sleep in tents without adults in them. In fact boys scouts have very strict rules against adults sleeping in tents with kids (obviously). It may surprise you but most 10 and 11 year olds don't want to wander around the woods at night.

I mean Boy Scouts is the epitome of protecting children from sexual abuse, right?

The rules have been in place SINCE the scandal. Before adults were allowed in tents with kids and sex abuse happened. Adults are generally the predators not kids (obviously exceptions).

Anyway, don't send your kid if you don't feel safe.

This is the answer. I do not believe that there is anything that APS can do to assuage concerns wrt students sharing tents. If this is something you don't approve of, then the solution is simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was the Oakridge incident?

My 5th grader is riding the bus back and forth during his class time out there. He didn't want to deal with anyone's dads snoring or girls seeing him in his jammies.

School offered the bus ride out of the gate.

Two 5th graders had inappropriate contact.

I don't have kids in APS but I was under the impression that one kid was an aggressor and the other kid a victim. Simply saying "inappropriate contact" sounds more benign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:800K?!?

How are we still paying for this?

Isn't the APS budget 750 million? It is less than 1% of the overall budget.

This is a cop-out.

I could think of a lot of ways to better spend 800K. You can't?

[Anonymous]

Are teachers paid for the overnight portion?

If not, they should rebel.

[Anonymous]

Outdoor lab now pays for a full time supervisor AND an assistant principal. Outrageous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was the Oakridge incident?

My 5th grader is riding the bus back and forth during his class time out there. He didn't want to deal with anyone's dads snoring or girls seeing him in his jammies.

School offered the bus ride out of the gate.

Two 5th graders had inappropriate contact.

I don't have kids in APS but I was under the impression that one kid was an aggressor and the other kid a victim. Simply saying "inappropriate contact" sounds more benign.

That is the story that got out by people guessing what happen from rumor and ignoring the fact that homophobia still exists in Arlington and parents still refuse to accept their kids for who they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are teachers paid for the overnight portion?

If not, they should rebel.

Nope. Never have been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was the Oakridge incident?

My 5th grader is riding the bus back and forth during his class time out there. He didn't want to deal with anyone's dads snoring or girls seeing him in his jammies.

School offered the bus ride out of the gate.

Two 5th graders had inappropriate contact.

I don't have kids in APS but I was under the impression that one kid was an aggressor and the other kid a victim. Simply saying "inappropriate contact" sounds more benign.

That is the story that got out by people guessing what happen from rumor and ignoring the fact that homophobia still exists in Arlington and parents still refuse to accept their kids for who they are.

Well, the family of the one kid certainly saw their child as the victim & the other as the aggressor. That’s not a rumor. Pretty sure the alleged aggressor also left the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What was the Oakridge incident?

My 5th grader is riding the bus back and forth during his class time out there. He didn't want to deal with anyone's dads snoring or girls seeing him in his jammies.

School offered the bus ride out of the gate.

Two 5th graders had inappropriate contact.

I don't have kids in APS but I was under the impression that one kid was an aggressor and the other kid a victim. Simply saying "inappropriate contact" sounds more benign.

That is the story that got out by people guessing what happen from rumor and ignoring the fact that homophobia still exists in Arlington and parents still refuse to accept their kids for who they are.

Well, the family of the one kid certainly saw their child as the victim & the other as the aggressor. That’s not a rumor. Pretty sure the alleged aggressor also left the school.

The alleged aggressor did not leave the elementary school because they were both there at promotion. Who knows what happened re: middle school. I don't dispute that one family saw one kid as an aggressor and their kid as a victim.