Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


So ridiculous for you to and speak for the protesters, especially when so much of the pro-Israeli govt push has been to define any criticism as anti-semitic.

To take one example— divestment, meaning opposition to investment in Israeli companies and arms companies selling weapons to Israel does not mean Israel should not exist. When you conflate those you just lose any credibility.

You might stop and think about why it’s ok to punish 2 million Gazans, killing tens of thousands, for what Hamas did (especially when I doubt most current Gazans were even alive for the last elections) but it strikes you as so unfair that divestment— which is literally just a change in who owns stocks of Israeli companies— would harm average Israeli citizens not the government.
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Thousands of Israelis take to streets of Tel Aviv to demand cease-fire and Netanyahu’s resignation
Protesters are demanding the government reach a deal to bring the hostages back from Gaza, for new elections and the resignation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The demonstration took place as a delegation of the Palestinian militant group Hamas was in Cairo for cease-fire talks with Israel.

https://apnews.com/video/israel-government-israel-hamas-war-israel-protests-and-demonstrations-benjamin-netanyahu-80fa94064ad4429ebb52531ad3ca12dc

It spread to Israel! These protesters…right! They are just stupid, do not understand the history the conflict, children being radicalized, leftists, etc. They should all be punished. Why have they not been arrested like the protesters here?


Um... these protesters are demanding Hamas return the hostages. They are not demanding everyone else capitulate to Hamas. Quite the opposite.


No they are calling for the removal of Netanyahu, a ceasefire and the release of the hostages. They must be Hamas! Why have these people not been arrested and punished? How can you call for that here in the US but not in Israel? What is wrong with you?


Hmm. Maybe because NONE of the pro-Palestinian protesters here in the U.S. were demanding Hamas release the hostages. In fact, those protesters were painting Hamas as "victims." Their mission was solely to demand divestments and for Israel to ceasefire. That's it. They couldn't have cared less about Hamas holding Israeli hostages.

Oh, and they were arrested because they trespassed, refused to leave when told to, and hijacked a building. In other words, they broke the law and they fully deserved to be arrested. You don't sound bright, at all.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.
There can be no permanent peace deal unless it includes the immediate disarmament and dissolution of Hamas, and the removal of anybody associated with Hamas from governmental roles in Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas knows this, so they blackballed any negotiations by asking for a permanent peace deal without these stipulations. So Israel rejected the so-called “deal,” like any other country in their situation would have.

Your blind support for Israel is astounding.
Had negotiations gone another way you would be arguing how that is the right decision
Clearly nobody is lily white and spotless!


DP. So, just to be clear: you support Hamas terrorists being in power. I mean, we already knew that, but why don't you come out and say it.
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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so


Well now you're just flat-out lying. With every post you're looking more and more unhinged.
DP
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so


Really? Jewish students are not being harassed? You either are purposely ignoring all the evidence that does not your support, or you simply don’t care.

Anti-Israel protester banging a pan in the face of Jewish counterprotestor: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6hOI5spHG9/?igsh=NjRoYzV1ZDYyN3p0

Calling for the destruction of Israel and threatening to Return to Israel in front of multiple Jewish students and Allie’s: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6fvUwvLu2s/?igsh=djM3dGVvaG1oMTU=

Pro-Hamas terrorist refuses to even shake the hand of a Jewish individual: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6gV4IJogcl/?igsh=MXI5NGptbDUweDZsYQ==

Violent pro-Hamas protestor steals Israeli flag from Jewish man to grind in the dirt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6em3DPtxCS/?igsh=MWw4YTMzaHlxZno2Yg==

Universities themselves refusing to allow Jewish professors onto campus: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ET1WwAjo_/?igsh=MXQ0OThpaHptZGdpag==

Burning Israeli flag in front of observant Jew: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6B8kT9Lzat/?igsh=dTB6dnZlZ3kyMWR5

“Go to a synagogue” https://www.instagram.com/reel/C58flO8A9AA/?igsh=MTViMW8xYzRxOWdxbw==

Going out to talk with protesters. Why bother. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C54H8tIP3W6/?igsh=c2VuMWduamtkam5j

Seriously, where is the disconnect? For months now Jewish people - the people actually impacted by anti-Semitism - have been trying to tell people that they are seeing a level of anti-Semitism that hasn’t been around since the 1930s, that they literally do not feel safe going to work, going to class, going outside even because of what they are seeing. And what has been the response? Biden’s fifth reference to Islamophobia being the real problem (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-brings-up-islamophobia-amid-worst-antisemitism-outbreak-decades.amp)? Some half-hearted attempt by school administrators to drive off protester, only after they personally are embarrassed? Terrorists being arrested on pointless misdemeanors and barely spending half a day detained to be sent back out to continue their campaign of hate?

At this point, you are simply in the wrong. And there is zero way to ignore that fact. These are not protestors, these are members and abject supporters of Hamas utilizing American streets as a continuation of their parent organization’s violent actions abroad, and until we start treating them as they are, Jewish residents are going to continue to tell you that nothing they are saying is reasonable, or worth protecting as anything other then terrorism. Because we have already lived through one genocide. And it’s insane we have to remind America of that fact.
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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so


Really? Jewish students are not being harassed? You either are purposely ignoring all the evidence that does not your support, or you simply don’t care.

Anti-Israel protester banging a pan in the face of Jewish counterprotestor: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6hOI5spHG9/?igsh=NjRoYzV1ZDYyN3p0

Calling for the destruction of Israel and threatening to Return to Israel in front of multiple Jewish students and Allie’s: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6fvUwvLu2s/?igsh=djM3dGVvaG1oMTU=

Pro-Hamas terrorist refuses to even shake the hand of a Jewish individual: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6gV4IJogcl/?igsh=MXI5NGptbDUweDZsYQ==

Violent pro-Hamas protestor steals Israeli flag from Jewish man to grind in the dirt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6em3DPtxCS/?igsh=MWw4YTMzaHlxZno2Yg==

Universities themselves refusing to allow Jewish professors onto campus: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ET1WwAjo_/?igsh=MXQ0OThpaHptZGdpag==

Burning Israeli flag in front of observant Jew: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6B8kT9Lzat/?igsh=dTB6dnZlZ3kyMWR5

“Go to a synagogue” https://www.instagram.com/reel/C58flO8A9AA/?igsh=MTViMW8xYzRxOWdxbw==

Going out to talk with protesters. Why bother. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C54H8tIP3W6/?igsh=c2VuMWduamtkam5j

Seriously, where is the disconnect? For months now Jewish people - the people actually impacted by anti-Semitism - have been trying to tell people that they are seeing a level of anti-Semitism that hasn’t been around since the 1930s, that they literally do not feel safe going to work, going to class, going outside even because of what they are seeing. And what has been the response? Biden’s fifth reference to Islamophobia being the real problem (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-brings-up-islamophobia-amid-worst-antisemitism-outbreak-decades.amp)? Some half-hearted attempt by school administrators to drive off protester, only after they personally are embarrassed? Terrorists being arrested on pointless misdemeanors and barely spending half a day detained to be sent back out to continue their campaign of hate?

At this point, you are simply in the wrong. And there is zero way to ignore that fact. These are not protestors, these are members and abject supporters of Hamas utilizing American streets as a continuation of their parent organization’s violent actions abroad, and until we start treating them as they are, Jewish residents are going to continue to tell you that nothing they are saying is reasonable, or worth protecting as anything other then terrorism. Because we have already lived through one genocide. And it’s insane we have to remind America of that fact.


+ a million
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.
There can be no permanent peace deal unless it includes the immediate disarmament and dissolution of Hamas, and the removal of anybody associated with Hamas from governmental roles in Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas knows this, so they blackballed any negotiations by asking for a permanent peace deal without these stipulations. So Israel rejected the so-called “deal,” like any other country in their situation would have.

Your blind support for Israel is astounding.
Had negotiations gone another way you would be arguing how that is the right decision
Clearly nobody is lily white and spotless!


DP. So, just to be clear: you support Hamas terrorists being in power. I mean, we already knew that, but why don't you come out and say it.


Yep. Crickets…
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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so


Really? Jewish students are not being harassed? You either are purposely ignoring all the evidence that does not your support, or you simply don’t care.

Anti-Israel protester banging a pan in the face of Jewish counterprotestor: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6hOI5spHG9/?igsh=NjRoYzV1ZDYyN3p0

Calling for the destruction of Israel and threatening to Return to Israel in front of multiple Jewish students and Allie’s: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6fvUwvLu2s/?igsh=djM3dGVvaG1oMTU=

Pro-Hamas terrorist refuses to even shake the hand of a Jewish individual: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6gV4IJogcl/?igsh=MXI5NGptbDUweDZsYQ==

Violent pro-Hamas protestor steals Israeli flag from Jewish man to grind in the dirt: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6em3DPtxCS/?igsh=MWw4YTMzaHlxZno2Yg==

Universities themselves refusing to allow Jewish professors onto campus: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ET1WwAjo_/?igsh=MXQ0OThpaHptZGdpag==

Burning Israeli flag in front of observant Jew: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6B8kT9Lzat/?igsh=dTB6dnZlZ3kyMWR5

“Go to a synagogue” https://www.instagram.com/reel/C58flO8A9AA/?igsh=MTViMW8xYzRxOWdxbw==

Going out to talk with protesters. Why bother. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C54H8tIP3W6/?igsh=c2VuMWduamtkam5j

Seriously, where is the disconnect? For months now Jewish people - the people actually impacted by anti-Semitism - have been trying to tell people that they are seeing a level of anti-Semitism that hasn’t been around since the 1930s, that they literally do not feel safe going to work, going to class, going outside even because of what they are seeing. And what has been the response? Biden’s fifth reference to Islamophobia being the real problem (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-brings-up-islamophobia-amid-worst-antisemitism-outbreak-decades.amp)? Some half-hearted attempt by school administrators to drive off protester, only after they personally are embarrassed? Terrorists being arrested on pointless misdemeanors and barely spending half a day detained to be sent back out to continue their campaign of hate?

At this point, you are simply in the wrong. And there is zero way to ignore that fact. These are not protestors, these are members and abject supporters of Hamas utilizing American streets as a continuation of their parent organization’s violent actions abroad, and until we start treating them as they are, Jewish residents are going to continue to tell you that nothing they are saying is reasonable, or worth protecting as anything other then terrorism. Because we have already lived through one genocide. And it’s insane we have to remind America of that fact.

You don't need to remind America this fact, you need to remind Democrats this fact. The rest of the Americans are seeing what is going on. Adam Sciff and other top Jewish democrats are complicit in this in the same way like top Jewish in Stalin's surrounding were complicit in executing Jewish population.
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Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


So ridiculous for you to and speak for the protesters, especially when so much of the pro-Israeli govt push has been to define any criticism as anti-semitic.

To take one example— divestment, meaning opposition to investment in Israeli companies and arms companies selling weapons to Israel does not mean Israel should not exist. When you conflate those you just lose any credibility.

You might stop and think about why it’s ok to punish 2 million Gazans, killing tens of thousands, for what Hamas did (especially when I doubt most current Gazans were even alive for the last elections) but it strikes you as so unfair that divestment— which is literally just a change in who owns stocks of Israeli companies— would harm average Israeli citizens not the government.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.
There can be no permanent peace deal unless it includes the immediate disarmament and dissolution of Hamas, and the removal of anybody associated with Hamas from governmental roles in Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas knows this, so they blackballed any negotiations by asking for a permanent peace deal without these stipulations. So Israel rejected the so-called “deal,” like any other country in their situation would have.

Your blind support for Israel is astounding.
Had negotiations gone another way you would be arguing how that is the right decision
Clearly nobody is lily white and spotless!


DP. So, just to be clear: you support Hamas terrorists being in power. I mean, we already knew that, but why don't you come out and say it.


Ugh, as every day passes, it just becomes more and more apparent that the perspectives of people supportive of Israel do not coexist peacefully with the perspectives of the rest of us.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Today, around a hundred students assembled at UT, protested for a few hours, and dispersed without incident. Looks like UT has handled this the right way.

I’ll be surprised if this gets any national coverage.

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787169510316818529?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ

https://x.com/thedailytexan/status/1787191507725791383?s=61&t=txL8mt-h7Q8BLpSNAiAzrQ



Shame on UT for not protecting their Jewish students and letting Hamas just openly terrorize the campus.




I’ve been as critical of UCLA and Columbia as anyone for not protecting their Jewish students, but UT is drawing the line at the correct place, imo. These students have the right to speak, however offensive their speech may be. They do not have the right to “occupy” the campus and camp in tents and deny access to the campus to people who don’t share their views. The state police cleared out those who previously attempted to do this (a substantial proportion of which were not students), and they stood by today to make sure the protest did not get out of hand. In contrast to Columbia, the protestors said their piece and moved on, because they knew that further actions would not be tolerated. Columbia messed up by not reacting immediately. They kept “negotiating” and ignoring their own deadlines. Because the protestors were determined to have a confrontation, they kept having to push further and further until they did something that couldn’t be ignored. Texas took control immediately and suffered a one day media hit (that was popular in Texas) instead of letting it drag on for weeks. Now, they are allowing the students their first amendment rights, while maintaining control of their campus and protecting the rights of other students. Of course, it will be ignored by the national media.



Of course they have the right to speak. Literally nobody is arguing with you.

They do not have the right to target Jewish students, call for the genocide of all Jews, and/or support a globally recognized terrorist organization.

These “protests” are not saying, “Israel has a right to exist, and their ongoing operation designed to liberate Palestine from Hamas rule should continue, but maybe they should look at their operations and how they can better protect Palestinian civilians,” which is a 100% valid and reasonable stance.

These protestors are arguing that Israel as a country should not exist, and that all Jewish people are guilty of extreme war crimes. They are arguing for “divestment” from Israel, and removal of American aid, much of which goes towards the Iron Dome, a DEFENSIVE system that continues to save Israeli lives. Divestment would harm Israelis, not the Israeli government, while removal of funding for the Iron Dome would be a massive boon for Hamas’ genocidal actions (like 10/7) and goals.


+1000
Pretty astounding this has to be explained at all.


So the content of their speech is offensive to you and therefore should not be allowed? Only the more sanitized version you shared is ok?

Yes - when the protests get to harassing anyone, Jewish or otherwise, they have crossed from being a protest into violence and should not be tolerated.

Jewish students are not being harassed, the Muslim students are, one university had to cancel a valedictorian speech because a Jewish student group said so


Really?

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Anonymous wrote:The protests are not only on the campuses of USC and Columbia. In the DC region, GWU's encampment with area colleges and universities' students joining in at DC/GWU campus. What effect if any will this have? Many have compared '23+'24 to the 60s/Vietnam.



Here is the GWU President's letter May 5:

violation of university and city regulations to have so many unidentified and unvetted people from outside the GW community living on university property.

Conventional protests that abide by municipal law and university policy should and do receive protection and respect, no matter the message's viewpoint. As I have outlined, this is not what is happening at GW.

For these reasons, the George Washington University continues to tirelessly pursue every avenue available to resolve the situation swiftly and safely. We have offered an alternative demonstration site, requested the assistance of the DC Metropolitan Police Department, erected barriers to contain the protest, initiated academic and administrative consequences for trespassing GW students, expanded our security resources and personnel, and conducted regular and sustained dialogues with GW students connected to the camp. So far, all of these efforts have failed to end the encampment or deter the protesters from escalating the situation.

As a university, we are not equipped to single-handedly manage an unprecedented situation such as this. The GW police force is, and should only be, prepared to protect our community during normal university operations and to respond to routine and urgent incidents. When unlawful activities go beyond these limits, we must rely on the support and experience of the DC Metropolitan Police Department. At this time, the District is in communication with the university, and the DC Metropolitan Police are providing an increased security presence on and around University Yard.

I understand and fully share the deep concern many feel about the status of the protest. Many are frustrated that it is continuing; some are willing for it to proceed indefinitely. At GW, our commitment remains to regain and maintain the safety and security of University Yard, pursue accountability for those who have destroyed university property and harassed our community, and return our university to normal operations. This includes, of course, allowing and promoting the free exercise of various viewpoints and means of expression by members of our community within the limits of university policies. We continue to ask for the full support of our partners, including the District of Columbia, in pursuing these aims.
Sincerely,
Ellen M. Granberg
President
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, this is a question for all pro Israeli posters. In the latest negotiations in Cairo, Hamas agreed to release all the hostages in exchange for an end to the war. However, Netanyahu refused this deal ( per Reuters, I haven’t seen this reported in U.S media).

I have seen hundreds of responses here saying that Hamas can end the killing of their people in one minute if they agree to release the hostages. But now we are finding out that it was never about the hostages, this is about Likud’s intentions for explanding Israel’s foot print and Netanyahu’s struggle to remain in power.

At this point if they don’t invade Rafah, Netanyahu is toast so here we are.
There can be no permanent peace deal unless it includes the immediate disarmament and dissolution of Hamas, and the removal of anybody associated with Hamas from governmental roles in Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas knows this, so they blackballed any negotiations by asking for a permanent peace deal without these stipulations. So Israel rejected the so-called “deal,” like any other country in their situation would have.

Your blind support for Israel is astounding.
Had negotiations gone another way you would be arguing how that is the right decision
Clearly nobody is lily white and spotless!


DP. So, just to be clear: you support Hamas terrorists being in power. I mean, we already knew that, but why don't you come out and say it.


Ugh, as every day passes, it just becomes more and more apparent that the perspectives of people supportive of Israel do not coexist peacefully with the perspectives of the rest of us.


The perspectives of people supportive of Israel do not coexist peacefully with the perspectives of the rest of America?

Do you realize just how inappropriate and outright disgusting that statement is when we have protesters associated with Hamas in our street in our street targeting and attacking Jewish and pro-Jewish residents, calling for genocide against Jews, at attacking Israel’s right to defend itself because of it’s Jewish faith.

It’s not Jewish people (or Israel supporters) who’s perspective does not coexist with the rest of America.
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Anonymous wrote:The protests are not only on the campuses of USC and Columbia. In the DC region, GWU's encampment with area colleges and universities' students joining in at DC/GWU campus. What effect if any will this have? Many have compared '23+'24 to the 60s/Vietnam.



Here is the GWU President's letter May 5:

Dear Members of the George Washington University Community,

It has been over a week since a group of students established an unauthorized protest encampment on GW's University Yard. Since then, there have been many conversations about students' rights to free expression and assembly and whether this is a peaceful protest. In this message, I want to directly address those conversations, share what we are experiencing on campus, and outline our desired outcomes moving forward.

Before I begin, I want to make clear that I believe the issues at the heart of this protest are important and deserve our full attention and consideration. There is a dire humanitarian crisis occurring in Gaza that must be addressed, and I am personally grief-stricken by the suffering and loss of innocent lives occurring on both sides of this conflict. I fully support and encourage our community to speak out and engage in controversial and critical dialogues on these crucial issues—as long as they occur within the limits of our university's policies and the District's laws. However, what is currently happening at GW is not a peaceful protest protected by the First Amendment or our university’s policies. The demonstration, like many around the country, has grown into what can only be classified as an illegal and potentially dangerous occupation of GW property.

History has repeatedly shown that there are many effective ways for communities to express their differing viewpoints lawfully within the District of Columbia. In the last seven months alone, at GW, we have seen this play out on all sides of the war between Israel and Hamas. I know that some in our community and others across the country argue that this, too, is simply a peaceful protest – and, at certain times, this has been true. However, when protesters overrun barriers established to protect the community, vandalize a university statue and flag, surround and intimidate GW students with antisemitic images and hateful rhetoric, chase people out of a public yard based on their perceived beliefs, and ignore, degrade, and push GW Police Officers and university maintenance staff, the protest ceases to be peaceful or productive. All of these things have happened at GW in the last five days.

It is also essential to highlight that at no point was this encampment lawful. From the moment GW students declared their intent to establish an encampment on University Yard, they were in direct violation of multiple university policies and were trespassing on a space explicitly reserved for the GW Law final examinations. The university, which is committed to protecting our students' rights to free expression, informed them of this and quickly offered a secure alternative protest site where GW would support them in holding peaceful daytime demonstrations. This offer was repeatedly refused.

Finally, it is clear that this is no longer a GW student demonstration. It has been co-opted by individuals who are largely unaffiliated with our community and do not have our community's best interest in mind. It is increasingly unsafe and a violation of university and city regulations to have so many unidentified and unvetted people from outside the GW community living on university property.

Conventional protests that abide by municipal law and university policy should and do receive protection and respect, no matter the message's viewpoint. As I have outlined, this is not what is happening at GW.

For these reasons, the George Washington University continues to tirelessly pursue every avenue available to resolve the situation swiftly and safely. We have offered an alternative demonstration site, requested the assistance of the DC Metropolitan Police Department, erected barriers to contain the protest, initiated academic and administrative consequences for trespassing GW students, expanded our security resources and personnel, and conducted regular and sustained dialogues with GW students connected to the camp. So far, all of these efforts have failed to end the encampment or deter the protesters from escalating the situation.

As a university, we are not equipped to single-handedly manage an unprecedented situation such as this. The GW police force is, and should only be, prepared to protect our community during normal university operations and to respond to routine and urgent incidents. When unlawful activities go beyond these limits, we must rely on the support and experience of the DC Metropolitan Police Department. At this time, the District is in communication with the university, and the DC Metropolitan Police are providing an increased security presence on and around University Yard.

I understand and fully share the deep concern many feel about the status of the protest. Many are frustrated that it is continuing; some are willing for it to proceed indefinitely. At GW, our commitment remains to regain and maintain the safety and security of University Yard, pursue accountability for those who have destroyed university property and harassed our community, and return our university to normal operations. This includes, of course, allowing and promoting the free exercise of various viewpoints and means of expression by members of our community within the limits of university policies. We continue to ask for the full support of our partners, including the District of Columbia, in pursuing these aims.
Sincerely,
Ellen M. Granberg
President
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