Why do nannies on DCUM always think they go above and beyond?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OP, I take serious issue with the part about employers expecting flexibility. If I tell my nanny her job ends at 6pm, I better be ready to allow her to walk out the door at 6pm. Of course, things happen, but they should be rare, and the nanny should be compensated well for extra time (and choose whether she can take on extra time). Of course she has a life outside of work! And whether it's to take care of her own children, or to live her life and fulfill her responsibilities, it's so selfish to think she needs to put that all aside for my needs and my life.

No, this is something you bring up in the interview and find a good match. Many employers, such as doctors or people with demanding jobs, choose a nanny because they know that they have an unpredictable schedule. If you don't bring up the need for availability and flexibility in the interview then I agree that its terrible to just randomly show up whenever but if this is something you need many nannies are able and willing to accomodate this. They need to be paid for all hours worked but there is no reason for this to be a shakedown of the employer. A nanny who is inconvenienced by this or or can't provide flexibility should turn down this offer.

The problem is that nannies are desperate for jobs and agree to anything upfront then get pissed that the job doesn't meet their fantasy. This attitude that I'm being taken advantage of because I need a job and its not my fault the employers are not offering terms I want is ridiculous.

Part of what you pay a nanny for is to reserve her time. This is why you set a schedule. If you want her available from 8-6, pay her from 8-6. If you want her available until whenever you please, you ought to pay her for it. You make the comparison to your job or that of a doctor or lawyer however it is not comparable. Those types of jobs pay people enough and give good enough benefits to warrant extreme dedication and drop of the hat availability. For the wage/salary many MBs on here desire to pay, you do not get round the clock availability or "above and beyond" dedication. You pay as little as possible for a service, outline a schedule, and desired duties. You can call me a horrible nanny, stupid, lazy or whatever but this is a business transaction. I am not claiming to be Mary Poppins. You pay me the wage we agreed on, and I will be available when we agreed on, and I will perform the duties we agreed on.

[Anonymous]

OP sounds like the typical shitty MB who actually has no desire to parent her own children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP sounds like the typical shitty MB who actually has no desire to parent her own children.

+1

[Anonymous]

OP how would you feel if your job was set as this ? No clue when you would be off?

Your boss telling you at 5 that you can't leave til 8 even though you are off at 5 & this happens all the time? Or pick up your bosses dry cleaning, cleaning your bosses office or picking up his/her lunch??

My job is to take care of the kids not go around and take care of adults. Now there are people who do that and you can hire them to wipe your ass.

I do my job and sometimes if it works out I may throw in my bosses laundry or walk a,pet if they are late. But my job comes first. If you as an adult can't get a grip on your own life and personal needs than you need help and maybe you shouldn't have had children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, not every nanny on here makes themselves out to be Mary Poppins. I really don't need to clarify anything else for you, I agree with the poster who said you have too much time on your hands.

Reread and you will see that it says most nannies not all nannies. So you didn't clarify anything and your comment remains irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, not every nanny on here makes themselves out to be Mary Poppins. I really don't need to clarify anything else for you, I agree with the poster who said you have too much time on your hands.

Reread and you will see that it says most nannies not all nannies. So you didn't clarify anything and your comment remains irrelevant.

I bet this is the same asshat who constantly posts on almost every thread how nannies are "low skilled" and "an entitled group of people". Ignore it and it will go away.

[Anonymous]

OP sounds like a bad and bitter parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I noticed most nannies who post on DCUM write that they are awesome nannies who ''go above and beyond'' and boast about how much of an asset they. They then start to write all the things they do that makes them so great and at the same time they're subtly defaming their employers and making them look like bad parents.

+100 Its very amusing. I love how they go on about how they go above and beyond and then two seconds later are going on about how they are entitled to nap, run their own errands, and offended at the idea of doing anything beyond the bare minimum that is spelled out in their contract. They seem to think that their mere presence in showing up to work on time is what constitutes above and beyond. I've never seen a group of people so lacking in self awareness.

My favorite is one is nannydeb. She is so awesome and amazing because she spends 20 minutes a day tidying up after herself. She really is a stellar catch. She isn't smart enough to be able to unload a dishwasher in less than 20 minutes (it takes a lot of brainpower remembering where the plates go, you know) but she still does everyday and counts it as her primary light housekeeping task. Poor taken advantage of nanny, she really deserves a few mini spa days for having to clean up after herself and unload the dishwasher.

I am so sick of people like you posting on these forums. Unloading a dishwasher is considered light housekeeping and so is doing the children's laundry. Are you a little bitter that you aren't raising your own children? Sure as hell sounds like it. I'm so glad my MB doesn't have the mindset of you DC area MB's. I don't go around stating that I go above and beyond, MB and DB both acknowledge how much their children are thriving since I've been caring for them.

Oh gosh, you didn't even comprehend what the above commenter meant when she was talking about nannydeb. Of course unloading the dishwasher and laundry are light housekeeping. But calling yourself an awesome professional nanny who goes above and beyond because you put a few dishes away is almost on the verge of pathetic. And that's what the above comment was saying.

Also, your bragging LOL. Brag to someone who cares because as far as I'm concerned, you're just another delusional DCUM nanny

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP, I take serious issue with the part about employers expecting flexibility. If I tell my nanny her job ends at 6pm, I better be ready to allow her to walk out the door at 6pm. Of course, things happen, but they should be rare, and the nanny should be compensated well for extra time (and choose whether she can take on extra time). Of course she has a life outside of work! And whether it's to take care of her own children, or to live her life and fulfill her responsibilities, it's so selfish to think she needs to put that all aside for my needs and my life.

No, this is something you bring up in the interview and find a good match. Many employers, such as doctors or people with demanding jobs, choose a nanny because they know that they have an unpredictable schedule. If you don't bring up the need for availability and flexibility in the interview then I agree that its terrible to just randomly show up whenever but if this is something you need many nannies are able and willing to accomodate this. They need to be paid for all hours worked but there is no reason for this to be a shakedown of the employer. A nanny who is inconvenienced by this or or can't provide flexibility should turn down this offer.

The problem is that nannies are desperate for jobs and agree to anything upfront then get pissed that the job doesn't meet their fantasy. This attitude that I'm being taken advantage of because I need a job and its not my fault the employers are not offering terms I want is ridiculous.

Part of what you pay a nanny for is to reserve her time. This is why you set a schedule. If you want her available from 8-6, pay her from 8-6. If you want her available until whenever you please, you ought to pay her for it. You make the comparison to your job or that of a doctor or lawyer however it is not comparable. Those types of jobs pay people enough and give good enough benefits to warrant extreme dedication and drop of the hat availability. For the wage/salary many MBs on here desire to pay, you do not get round the clock availability or "above and beyond" dedication. You pay as little as possible for a service, outline a schedule, and desired duties. You can call me a horrible nanny, stupid, lazy or whatever but this is a business transaction. I am not claiming to be Mary Poppins. You pay me the wage we agreed on, and I will be available when we agreed on, and I will perform the duties we agreed on.

Haha, millions of people in the world are asked to stay late. You'll get paid extra if you stay extra. You're delusional if you think you should be paid an extra hour, 52 weeks a year, just because your employers might need you to stay late on a rare occasion.
Again, if you nannies didn't have nanny jobs you'd be working at the local mall making min wage. If you want to reap all the benefits of a real professional then have something to show for it or otherwise, be quiet. Your comment is the reason why nannies typically get a bad rep as being called lazy, unprofessional and entitled. Take your job seriously instead of trying to reel in extra money you didn't work for. Because let's be honest, it won't be good enough for you. You'll still find another reason to complain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, not every nanny on here makes themselves out to be Mary Poppins. I really don't need to clarify anything else for you, I agree with the poster who said you have too much time on your hands.

Reread and you will see that it says most nannies not all nannies. So you didn't clarify anything and your comment remains irrelevant.

I bet this is the same asshat who constantly posts on almost every thread how nannies are "low skilled" and "an entitled group of people". Ignore it and it will go away.

No, believe it or not most people believe nannies are lazy and entitled and that's why you continue to see it on posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

OP, I take serious issue with the part about employers expecting flexibility. If I tell my nanny her job ends at 6pm, I better be ready to allow her to walk out the door at 6pm. Of course, things happen, but they should be rare, and the nanny should be compensated well for extra time (and choose whether she can take on extra time). Of course she has a life outside of work! And whether it's to take care of her own children, or to live her life and fulfill her responsibilities, it's so selfish to think she needs to put that all aside for my needs and my life.

No, this is something you bring up in the interview and find a good match. Many employers, such as doctors or people with demanding jobs, choose a nanny because they know that they have an unpredictable schedule. If you don't bring up the need for availability and flexibility in the interview then I agree that its terrible to just randomly show up whenever but if this is something you need many nannies are able and willing to accomodate this. They need to be paid for all hours worked but there is no reason for this to be a shakedown of the employer. A nanny who is inconvenienced by this or or can't provide flexibility should turn down this offer.

The problem is that nannies are desperate for jobs and agree to anything upfront then get pissed that the job doesn't meet their fantasy. This attitude that I'm being taken advantage of because I need a job and its not my fault the employers are not offering terms I want is ridiculous.

Part of what you pay a nanny for is to reserve her time. This is why you set a schedule. If you want her available from 8-6, pay her from 8-6. If you want her available until whenever you please, you ought to pay her for it. You make the comparison to your job or that of a doctor or lawyer however it is not comparable. Those types of jobs pay people enough and give good enough benefits to warrant extreme dedication and drop of the hat availability. For the wage/salary many MBs on here desire to pay, you do not get round the clock availability or "above and beyond" dedication. You pay as little as possible for a service, outline a schedule, and desired duties. You can call me a horrible nanny, stupid, lazy or whatever but this is a business transaction. I am not claiming to be Mary Poppins. You pay me the wage we agreed on, and I will be available when we agreed on, and I will perform the duties we agreed on.

Haha, millions of people in the world are asked to stay late. You'll get paid extra if you stay extra. You're delusional if you think you should be paid an extra hour, 52 weeks a year, just because your employers might need you to stay late on a rare occasion.
Again, if you nannies didn't have nanny jobs you'd be working at the local mall making min wage. If you want to reap all the benefits of a real professional then have something to show for it or otherwise, be quiet. Your comment is the reason why nannies typically get a bad rep as being called lazy, unprofessional and entitled. Take your job seriously instead of trying to reel in extra money you didn't work for. Because let's be honest, it won't be good enough for you. You'll still find another reason to complain.

The PP probably meant that if you see yourself possibly being late on a regular basis, to add another hour to the schedule. If they are not late, then they can get home and change clothes, take a few minutes to themselves before taking over with the kids. Maybe start dinner? I know many parents like to do this, instead of just handing kids over the moment they get into the door. Then if they are late, it cuts into that time more, so nanny doesn't have to be staying quite as late. If you don't end up being late more than once every few months, then it is fine to not build that extra padding of time to the end of her schedule. Would you always be ready to drop everything in the morning to head in to work an hour early with just an hours notice? No? Why not? This is asking the same thing of the nanny at the end of the day, she has things scheduled and plans on leaving at a certain time to go and do other stuff. If you would have to make many changes like trying to call your nanny to come in earlier, be rushed at getting ready, skip breakfast etc so you could get in to work early at the last minute, then expect the nanny would need to do the same sort of stuff to end up staying an hour later than her schedule goes. It is an inconvenience even if she is able to stay, so you try not to do it often.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP how would you feel if your job was set as this ? No clue when you would be off?

Your boss telling you at 5 that you can't leave til 8 even though you are off at 5 & this happens all the time? Or pick up your bosses dry cleaning, cleaning your bosses office or picking up his/her lunch??

My job is to take care of the kids not go around and take care of adults. Now there are people who do that and you can hire them to wipe your ass.

I do my job and sometimes if it works out I may throw in my bosses laundry or walk a,pet if they are late. But my job comes first. If you as an adult can't get a grip on your own life and personal needs than you need help and maybe you shouldn't have had children.

Sheesh, talk about taking my post and stretching my words. Never did I say any of that. I was talking about being flexible if MB needs you to stay a little later on occasion, not about parents forcing nannies to stay hours later on a daily basis. Nor did I say anything about doing the parents laundry. And why are you even talking about dry cleaning, delivering food and cleaning offices? LOL. In fact, nothing I mentioned had anything to do with any of the things you were coherently spewing about. You're letting your emotions block your ability to comprehend.

No offence but I wouldn't let you dramatic loony tunes wash my laundry, never mind watch my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I noticed most nannies who post on DCUM write that they are awesome nannies who ''go above and beyond'' and boast about how much of an asset they. They then start to write all the things they do that makes them so great and at the same time they're subtly defaming their employers and making them look like bad parents.

+100 Its very amusing. I love how they go on about how they go above and beyond and then two seconds later are going on about how they are entitled to nap, run their own errands, and offended at the idea of doing anything beyond the bare minimum that is spelled out in their contract. They seem to think that their mere presence in showing up to work on time is what constitutes above and beyond. I've never seen a group of people so lacking in self awareness.

My favorite is one is nannydeb. She is so awesome and amazing because she spends 20 minutes a day tidying up after herself. She really is a stellar catch. She isn't smart enough to be able to unload a dishwasher in less than 20 minutes (it takes a lot of brainpower remembering where the plates go, you know) but she still does everyday and counts it as her primary light housekeeping task. Poor taken advantage of nanny, she really deserves a few mini spa days for having to clean up after herself and unload the dishwasher.

I am so sick of people like you posting on these forums. Unloading a dishwasher is considered light housekeeping and so is doing the children's laundry. Are you a little bitter that you aren't raising your own children? Sure as hell sounds like it. I'm so glad my MB doesn't have the mindset of you DC area MB's. I don't go around stating that I go above and beyond, MB and DB both acknowledge how much their children are thriving since I've been caring for them.

Oh gosh, you didn't even comprehend what the above commenter meant when she was talking about nannydeb. Of course unloading the dishwasher and laundry are light housekeeping. But calling yourself an awesome professional nanny who goes above and beyond because you put a few dishes away is almost on the verge of pathetic. And that's what the above comment was saying.

Also, your bragging LOL. Brag to someone who cares because as far as I'm concerned, you're just another delusional DCUM nanny

And you're probably one of those awesome parents that posts threads on the parenting board - help it's snowing out what should my child wear or help I'm alone with my child for 5 mins and I don't know what to do

What would be great is passing a law that you need a license to have kids - after you pass classes.
Tons of stupid people shouldn't breed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I noticed most nannies who post on DCUM write that they are awesome nannies who ''go above and beyond'' and boast about how much of an asset they. They then start to write all the things they do that makes them so great and at the same time they're subtly defaming their employers and making them look like bad parents.

+100 Its very amusing. I love how they go on about how they go above and beyond and then two seconds later are going on about how they are entitled to nap, run their own errands, and offended at the idea of doing anything beyond the bare minimum that is spelled out in their contract. They seem to think that their mere presence in showing up to work on time is what constitutes above and beyond. I've never seen a group of people so lacking in self awareness.

My favorite is one is nannydeb. She is so awesome and amazing because she spends 20 minutes a day tidying up after herself. She really is a stellar catch. She isn't smart enough to be able to unload a dishwasher in less than 20 minutes (it takes a lot of brainpower remembering where the plates go, you know) but she still does everyday and counts it as her primary light housekeeping task. Poor taken advantage of nanny, she really deserves a few mini spa days for having to clean up after herself and unload the dishwasher.

I am so sick of people like you posting on these forums. Unloading a dishwasher is considered light housekeeping and so is doing the children's laundry. Are you a little bitter that you aren't raising your own children? Sure as hell sounds like it. I'm so glad my MB doesn't have the mindset of you DC area MB's. I don't go around stating that I go above and beyond, MB and DB both acknowledge how much their children are thriving since I've been caring for them.

Oh gosh, you didn't even comprehend what the above commenter meant when she was talking about nannydeb. Of course unloading the dishwasher and laundry are light housekeeping. But calling yourself an awesome professional nanny who goes above and beyond because you put a few dishes away is almost on the verge of pathetic. And that's what the above comment was saying.

Also, your bragging LOL. Brag to someone who cares because as far as I'm concerned, you're just another delusional DCUM nanny

And you're probably one of those awesome parents that posts threads on the parenting board - help it's snowing out what should my child wear or help I'm alone with my child for 5 mins and I don't know what to do

What would be great is passing a law that you need a license to have kids - after you pass classes.
Tons of stupid people shouldn't breed.

Not that this has anything to do with the OP but keep in mind how many amazing, world-changing people came from stupid lazy parents!

[Anonymous]

OP, your vitriol is disturbing. See a professional for mental and emotional counselling before you have a total and irreversible breakdown.