Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Interesting her two diss albums (IMO) Red and now TTPD both followed very very short but passionate relationships.

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting her two diss albums (IMO) Red and now TTPD both followed very very short but passionate relationships.

You think this is a diss album?! I’m baffled.

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

Taylor writing songs about longing for a past love is the healthier equivalent to people who are 45 Facebook messaging their high school boyfriend to “see how they’re doing.”

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

Taylor writing songs about longing for a past love is the healthier equivalent to people who are 45 Facebook messaging their high school boyfriend to “see how they’re doing.”

And now we realize this pining has been going on for TEN years.

[Anonymous]

Why is Tortured Poets Department abbreviated as TTPD

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Anonymous wrote:Joe was so guarded and private but he would not be well-known at all if it weren’t for her; he certainly wouldn’t have won a Grammy. She made him a household name (maybe he didn’t want that?). It would be ridiculous if he feels betrayed or disappointed by these songs, as has been reported. I hope that’s all BS.

I am starting to think that Joe and Travis were PR on her behalf and she has been using them to cover up for the one man she has been in love with for a decade or more. It’s possible they even knew and went along with it because as you said about Joe in particular, the PR benefitted him a lot too. It is unlikely he listened to songs about illicit affairs and secret pining while they were together and didn’t put two and two together.
Death By A Thousand Cuts is my favorite song on the Lover album, and I have always wondered about those lyrics. Wasn’t Lover the Joe album and at the peak of their bliss? Yet in that song she says she gets drunk (“functioning alcoholic” vibes) but it’s not enough because as soon as she sobers up, she remembers he is not her baby!?! Then she sings how she looks through the windows of their love even though they’ve *boarded them up*. Prologue of TTPD says this chapter is now closed and “boarded up.” But is it?

Same for Travis. No way you listen to TTPD and think to yourself, that’s cool, she was over this decade-long epic love when we got together *a couple* of months after they broke it off, against her wishes.

I’ve always thought Travis was good PR (for NFL too) bringing her fans into the fold. She wants to be over her longtime muse and can write about closing a chapter and boarding it up but does that change her deepest feelings? I’m not so sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Tortured Poets Department abbreviated as TTPD

The Tortured Poets Dept.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Tortured Poets Department abbreviated as TTPD

The Tortured Poets Dept.

Ah

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I don't know Healy's music.

Does he also write songs about his relationships? Will he answer back with his own post mortem on every aspect of the relationship and his thoughts both good and bad about Taylor - maybe a Smallest Woman song?

I do love the idea of him doing a cover of We will never, ever, ever get back together!

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting her two diss albums (IMO) Red and now TTPD both followed very very short but passionate relationships.

Matty Healy wasn’t short. She has been in love with him for years. Before, during and after Joe. Just listen to the lyrics in End Game, Illicit Affairs, Cardigan or Question, to name a few.
How are people still not getting this?

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

Taylor writing songs about longing for a past love is the healthier equivalent to people who are 45 Facebook messaging their high school boyfriend to “see how they’re doing.”

And now we realize this pining has been going on for TEN years.

10 that we know of, that’s when they were first spotted publicly. But they might have known each other even before that. I’m actually now questioning some of the songs on 1989 too. Style fits MH a lot more than Harry Styles. Maybe they weren’t dating or having passionate trysts yet at that time, but she could have already been under Matty Healy’s spell and writing about them. There are certainly stories online of her going to his band’s concerts and acting totally smitten.

It’s possible she used titles (Style) and descriptive phrases to dupe everyone, the same way she misled the public about who this album was going to be about or about her 6-year long “Endgame” relationship with Joe, which was probably mostly just a front. I enter into evidence the lyrics in Endgame itself

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know Healy's music.

Does he also write songs about his relationships? Will he answer back with his own post mortem on every aspect of the relationship and his thoughts both good and bad about Taylor - maybe a Smallest Woman song?

I do love the idea of him doing a cover of We will never, ever, ever get back together!

He is not as prolific as her. About You and Part Of The Band are about her. There are many elements, specific words and phrases in other songs and music videos of The 1975’s that she has referenced in her music.

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

Taylor writing songs about longing for a past love is the healthier equivalent to people who are 45 Facebook messaging their high school boyfriend to “see how they’re doing.”

And now we realize this pining has been going on for TEN years.

10 that we know of, that’s when they were first spotted publicly. But they might have known each other even before that. I’m actually now questioning some of the songs on 1989 too. Style fits MH a lot more than Harry Styles. Maybe they weren’t dating or having passionate trysts yet at that time, but she could have already been under Matty Healy’s spell and writing about them. There are certainly stories online of her going to his band’s concerts and acting totally smitten.

It’s possible she used titles (Style) and descriptive phrases to dupe everyone, the same way she misled the public about who this album was going to be about or about her 6-year long “Endgame” relationship with Joe, which was probably mostly just a front. I enter into evidence the lyrics in Endgame itself

Style is soooo about Matty Healy. The way she described it is very much in line with what we now know.

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Anonymous wrote:Are some of you perhaps reading too much into the songs? There's no rule that says every song is a gospel retelling of a specific relationship.

Yes but they will read between every line to try to put her down.

It’s weird.

People did that Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears when they were at the top of their game.

People love to be haters.

The haters seem keenly aware of her lyrics, relationships, age, and other facts about her. It's a bit odd to be so invested in something that's not their cup of tea. Supposedly.

That’s because we’re not haters. We like(d) her music enough and own some of it, but also think the themes and slander of her recent exes on each album is juvenile and has gotten old. It’s like a comedian telling the same joke for 20 years - there’s no range.

I guess you're no longer the target demographic. She's got a fan base and some stick with her, some move on, and some girls may be aging into the angst as tweens who haven't been following her for 18 years. Maybe the music is just not for you anymore.

Yes, I think that’s fair. I just find it interesting that neither Taylor nor her music have really evolved, especially when her whole thing is writing songs like a diary. She definitely has a market and she’s a phenomenon, but I don’t know- I’m her age and I compare her to someone like Billy Joel, who has albums and albums of diverse songs and themes, and I’m just kind of “meh” about TS now. I liked her early stuff but yes, it seems ive outgrown her music, which to me, has gotten stale - and also kind of sad to be trashing your exes so publicly.

And just to add, is that even in her best business interest? What happens if she falls in love and stays in another long term relationship? What if she gets married? Will she write songs if she’s in a stable relationship? Or just perform old ones? Obviously she never has to worry about money, but I assume she’s like being at the top of her game, and if that is dependent upon heartbreak material, she’ll have to go from relationship to relationship forever, pretending she’s shocked and devestating when it ends.

Considering so many of her songs are based on stories and not her real life, which she has been honest about, I don’t think that is a concern. She’s done a really good job of taking inspiration from other things. She’s talked about how a lot of her songs on her pandemic albums were inspired by old movies she watched in lockdown.

I am sure some of this is true. But also some of it probably isn't. Can she admit, I burned for this other man while I was with Joe for 6 years (and before, and after) and wrote dozens of songs about him in code? Good girl, role model Taylor? I used to think that she would never, but then TTPD came out, and now I am actually in awe of her bravery, her grand gesture in the name of love, and her IDGAF attitude. Because she loved Matty Healy, thinks he is worthy and wants the world to know. But why risk it now if she is truly over him? Because I don't think she is.

She is, which is why she can release this album now. The poem she wrote even says so. It’s over - she found a love that means she can finally let this one and all the other men in the past go. It’s a goodbye to so many eras . That’s why the anthology ends on The Manuscript. “The story’s not mine anymore.”

The idea of “the one that got away” is not unique to Taylor. I’d say many people have that one person who, throughout life, acts like a hologram for all the lives and paths we didn’t live because of the ones who chose. They’re an idea more than anything but they’re in the background as the “what if” or the “in another life.” A fantasy more than anything. That’s Matty to her I think.

Yes, I’m happily married and approaching the 2 decade mark with my husband. We have 2 kids and I’m thankful for our family.

But I’m human. I still periodically look into past boyfriends and crushes and what they’re up to. Even been known to have the occasional sex dream about another guy. people are messy and life is complicated. I still love my husband and our life but I haven’t perfectly shut out my past or closed myself off entirely from experiencing conflicting emotions.

Taylor isn’t a mom or married so I imagine this is even more straightforward for her. Plus come on, some of this is just songwriting for the sake of songwriting. She is able to harness emotions and thoughts and build a song out of it. Doesn’t mean every word is biographical.

Taylor writing songs about longing for a past love is the healthier equivalent to people who are 45 Facebook messaging their high school boyfriend to “see how they’re doing.”

Sex is a permanent bond.

Religious people are actually right about that. Sex is a spell