Jen Hatmaker

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, her new “merch” - coffee mugs with idiotic sayings - make her look so shallow and desperate
inspired by Big Sass
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, her new “merch” - coffee mugs with idiotic sayings - make her look so shallow and desperate
inspired by Big Sass


Ah, yes, Big Sass, the ultimate "Sa$$hole".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, her new “merch” - coffee mugs with idiotic sayings - make her look so shallow and desperate
inspired by Big Sass


It's stunning, actually. A woman "preaches" love, growth, healing.
But markets a "clever" item "Mother of Sassholes".
Essentially the joke is that you are calling your kiddos
a$$hole$, but in a "cute" way.
Sure, the word "a$$hol-" has become wayyy more used in the world,
but to call your CHILDREN that, to show how cool and hip
you are? It's absolutely expressing contempt for your kids. And worse, it's
like "Oh can't you take a joke?"

The emotional whiplash she creates as a"brand" is insane.
Because those other cups say "full of gratitude ".
EVERY day she sells something: b.s.
Anonymous
Jen isn’t educated? That’s a lie. She is literate and a strong writer at times. She can understand complex ways of being and thinking.

I don’t have Facebook so I can’t see Tyler’s full comment but I’d bet you are taking the JLK thing too seriously. JLK is much catchier to say than JLH. It doesn’t have to be anything more than a stupid nickname.

I agree that Sarah Bessey comes across as super shady about the weight loss. Never read her works but it did seem like out of all the friends, she was the one most present for Jamie when her son died.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, her new “merch” - coffee mugs with idiotic sayings - make her look so shallow and desperate
inspired by Big Sass


It's stunning, actually. A woman "preaches" love, growth, healing.
But markets a "clever" item "Mother of Sassholes".
Essentially the joke is that you are calling your kiddos
a$$hole$, but in a "cute" way.
Sure, the word "a$$hol-" has become wayyy more used in the world,
but to call your CHILDREN that, to show how cool and hip
you are? It's absolutely expressing contempt for your kids. And worse, it's
like "Oh can't you take a joke?"


I think it’s disgusting, and a new low for her.
Anonymous
Big Sass and Big Siss
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sarah Bessey's dramatic weight loss. Yes, she looks exactly like my friends and sister in law who've been using Ozempic. Maybe she has done with solely with clean living and cutting out alcohol, and if so, more power to her but if I was a betting woman I'd place my entire 401K on Sarah has been going hard with $1500 a month insulin blocking shots.

If she is, why can't she just admit it? Her brand if all about authenticity, right? She's the dearest of the dearest and most preciously true voice in the world, right? Or is she just another big phony?


I do want to say, I’m 46 and have lost 40 lbs and transformed my whole body this last year. I did it with mindful eating, heavy weight training and no alcohol. It sucks to lose weight the hard way in the age of ozempic, because people immediately assume it’s that. “You’re so skinny all of a sudden!” No actually it’s taken 12 whole months and a lot of discipline.
Anonymous
I specifically remember Jen’s Mother’s Day rant from several years ago, calling out Brandon and saying that her “gift” for Mother’s Day should be NOT having to get anyone else a gift (i.e. her mother in law or mom).

Today, she wants us all to get EVERYONE a gift, including ourselves, with her special codes. Lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I specifically remember Jen’s Mother’s Day rant from several years ago, calling out Brandon and saying that her “gift” for Mother’s Day should be NOT having to get anyone else a gift (i.e. her mother in law or mom).

Today, she wants us all to get EVERYONE a gift, including ourselves, with her special codes. Lol.


Jen’s “values” are dictated by money, fame, and opportunities. Now she really needs money so everything is all about selling crap to people. That’s her main “value” at the moment.
Anonymous
Do we think Jen will publish a new book this year?

After all she's been through post FFF, I would be eager to read it. I think out of her internet besties, she is probably the best writer/storyteller, then Jamie Wright, then Kristen, then Bessey. Tara Livesay has hinted that she has a book contract and I would LOVE to hear her story, too.
I used to read every one of Sarah Goodfellow's blog posts when they were in Peru. She could tell an interesting story, too.

Jamie is a less disciplined story-structurer than Jen, and Kristen can't suppress the snark even in tender moments. Bessey is pure word salad and actually boring.

Jamie was supposed to be working on another book but I guess she is just busy with life now. Good for her.
Anonymous
Jamie Ivey is someone in Jen's TX circle that I tried to read, but just couldn't. I don't know how much to blame on her writing or her editor? Jennie Allen also has shades of Bessey and never arrives fully at a point.
Will Sass write another book?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do we think Jen will publish a new book this year?

After all she's been through post FFF, I would be eager to read it. I think out of her internet besties, she is probably the best writer/storyteller, then Jamie Wright, then Kristen, then Bessey. Tara Livesay has hinted that she has a book contract and I would LOVE to hear her story, too.
I used to read every one of Sarah Goodfellow's blog posts when they were in Peru. She could tell an interesting story, too.

Jamie is a less disciplined story-structurer than Jen, and Kristen can't suppress the snark even in tender moments. Bessey is pure word salad and actually boring.

Jamie was supposed to be working on another book but I guess she is just busy with life now. Good for her.


Well Jen did do a big NYC publisher tour a few months ago with her literary agent but since then crickets. Who knows? What's the market for her in 2024-2025? She hasn't published a real book or a memoir for 4 plus years. The cook book doesn't count and I don't think that sold very well at all. The world has moved on in a lot of ways, I fear. Jen is old news. And old voice.

Sarah Bessey is the worst of the lot, IMO. So twee and precious and so so dear and so so precious. And never really saying anything but using a lot of dear and precious words.

Jamie is the best of the lot. She has a real voice and can be laugh out loud funny. She doesn't seem to really want to be a working writer anymore, though. And I say, good for her. This influencer thought leader guru world is toxic and ultimately pointless. Plus there are a lot of new, younger, fresher voices coming up.
Anonymous
Jen has reached the publish or perish stage in her career. She's struggling to say anything new or interesting or meaningful. I mean, her podcast now is so repetitive. How many times can she cover the same topics? Like "Change"? Her eyes must glaze over rehashing these same topics over and over and over again.
Anonymous
I hope Big Siss isn't praying for a big, new book advance. Cause that's probably not going to happen. Her Bookscan numbers are brutal.
Anonymous
I mean, her podcast now is so repetitive.


She has had some A list guests, and still can't get the podcast off the ground well. I think she needs to invest in producing the podcast more. James Clear (!) was her recent guest that I actually tried to watch. The audio quality was so bad that I only watched 1/3 of it, and I really wanted to hear this interview. The intro almost lost me, as Jen almost went full Tom Bilyeu in introducing Clear; the lead in to his talk was one giant drone about how long Atomic Habits has been a NYTBS. Tom Bilyeu is barely tolerable with his overwrought fan boy intros of even the most mediocre guests. But, production value-wise, Impact Theory blows For The Love out of the water. Jen can't keep broadcasting from her she shed.
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