FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Herndon does not ‘want’ Forestville.


Depends on who you talk to. I've spoken to Herndon parents who think Forestville should be zoned to Herndon. And they are active in the FCDC/DDDC so Robyn Lady's people.


Does it make capacity and transportation sense? If moving Langley kids to Herndon (if there is room there) frees up room at Langley for a he overflowing McLean kids then it seems reasonable. No talk of equity is required.

Herndon doesn’t have capacity to absorb all of Forestville. The projections for Herndon are way off, and if they do it then they’ll just end up crowding Herndon and alleviating the McLean situation. Seems like the cure would be worse than the disease.

Btw, this whole thing is one big equity play, they just have to disguise it because the Supreme Court wouldn’t allow it if they were in the open about it.


The 2024-28 CIP projected Herndon at 2329 kids in 2027-28. The 2025-29 CIP now has Herndon at 1932 kids in 2027-28 and 1920 in 2028-29. Herndon has a design capacity of 2779 kids following its expansion.

The 2024-28 CIP projected Langley at 2154 kids in 2027-28. The 2025-29 CIP now has Langley at 2314 kids in 2027-28 and 2285 in 2028-29. Langley has a design capacity of 2370 kids following its expansion.

The 2024-28 CIP projected McLean at 2486 kids in 2027-28. The 2025-29 CIP now has McLean at 2388 kids in 2027-28 and 2365 kids in 2028-29. McLean has a design capacity of 1993 kids, excluding a modular, and 2279 kids, including the modular.

Before they start moving kids around from McLean to Langley to Herndon:

1. They really ought to explain why the Herndon and Langley projections varied so much. If the projections in the 2024-28 CIP were flawed, they still need another year of projections to demonstrate they are doing it better now.

2. They ought to respect the wishes of McLean families who, while viewing the modular as less than ideal, would prefer to stay at their school rather than be treated as pawns as part of a scheme to move part of Langley to Herndon.

3. They need to consider potential enrollment growth at Westfield due to new Silver Line construction (which would feed into Westfield, not Herndon) and whether available seats at Herndon should be used to accommodate that growth.


The modular doesn’t address the significant overcrowding of all the common spaces such as the cafeteria, gym, auditorium, library,… It’s not the job to respect the wishes of some McLean parents who don’t want to get moved to Langley. It’s about managing resources efficiently. Comparison of Langley and MHS shows you that is not being done at all.


FCPS has built permanent additions to numerous schools to increase classroom space without expanding the common spaces you mention. The modular at McLean is cheap but it does add classrooms, and since they just changed the McLean boundaries in 2021 they shouldn't do so again without clear and strong support from McLean families for yet another boundary change. Otherwise they are just yanking McLean around to justify moving Langley kids to Herndon.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m excited for the for this new boundary policy to go live. So much academic and social change for the better.


They are NOT rezoning?! Are they?

What a foolish move.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m also excited to see how much better Lewis can be with these new changes.

Chantilly could use boundary shifts as well.


They probably won’t do anything for Chantilly until the big expansion at Centreville is finished.

This is mostly about moving West Springfield kids to Lewis and Langley kids to Herndon.


There is jo justification to move anh West Springfield kids to Lewis

Lewis has over 12% of their students pupil placing to other high schools.

FCPS needs to close That loophole, then sit for a couple of years to see how that settles before disrupting any non Lewis kids with rezoning.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m also excited to see how much better Lewis can be with these new changes.

Chantilly could use boundary shifts as well.


They probably won’t do anything for Chantilly until the big expansion at Centreville is finished.

This is mostly about moving West Springfield kids to Lewis and Langley kids to Herndon.


There is jo justification to move anh West Springfield kids to Lewis

Lewis has over 12% of their students pupil placing to other high schools.

FCPS needs to close That loophole, then sit for a couple of years to see how that settles before disrupting any non Lewis kids with rezoning.


+1

It’s even worse for Herndon High.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


The combined facilities cost of the next few HS expansions will approach $1 billion dollars as construction supplies and labor inflation stays high. Rezoning to balance overcrowding can help not only reduce but entirely eliminate the need for some of those expansions i.e., costs.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


The combined facilities cost of the next few HS expansions will approach $1 billion dollars as construction supplies and labor inflation stays high. Rezoning to balance overcrowding can help not only reduce but entirely eliminate the need for some of those expansions i.e., costs.


You pulled those numbers right out of your ass, but that’s what we can expect from the equity crowd as they try to sell their radical redistricting agenda as an exercise in cost savings.

It’s total BS, as illustrated by the fact that they keep plowing ahead with Karl Frisch’s boondoggle at Dunn Loring ES even though it’s clearly not needed.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


The combined facilities cost of the next few HS expansions will approach $1 billion dollars as construction supplies and labor inflation stays high. Rezoning to balance overcrowding can help not only reduce but entirely eliminate the need for some of those expansions i.e., costs.


I’m always extremely skeptical when libertarians team up with SJWs. Neither really cares about the actual education part of FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m excited for the for this new boundary policy to go live. So much academic and social change for the better.


They are NOT rezoning?! Are they?

What a foolish move.


+1.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


?? Rezoning will mean shorter bus routes and will save money. Forestviille going to Herndon is much shorter than going to Langley.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


?? Rezoning will mean shorter bus routes and will save money. Forestviille going to Herndon is much shorter than going to Langley.


DP. Are you conceding they won’t grandfather kids at their existing schools with these boundaries changes? Because if they grandfather kids they’ll be running more bus routes through many neighborhoods for years and that will absolutely drive up transportation costs. And if they don’t they are basically going to ruin the school experience for a lot of kids.
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Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Herndon does not ‘want’ Forestville.

You’d be wise to tell your SB representative that, since it is clear she’s going to try to jam you with them.



Want is in quotes because they don’t care one way or another. What they have issue with is people going apoplectic over the possibility of being re-zoned to Herndon.


DP. I honestly don't believe any Herndon parent is advocating for redistricting Forestville to Herndon. It's very clear that it's a McLean parent who keeps insisting this will happen. Very bizarre obsession with wanting to "stick it" to Great Falls. Note, the person who keeps bringing it up will never, ever tell you where her kids attend school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


?? Rezoning will mean shorter bus routes and will save money. Forestviille going to Herndon is much shorter than going to Langley.


DP. Which school do your kids attend?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


The combined facilities cost of the next few HS expansions will approach $1 billion dollars as construction supplies and labor inflation stays high. Rezoning to balance overcrowding can help not only reduce but entirely eliminate the need for some of those expansions i.e., costs.


You pulled those numbers right out of your ass, but that’s what we can expect from the equity crowd as they try to sell their radical redistricting agenda as an exercise in cost savings.

It’s total BS, as illustrated by the fact that they keep plowing ahead with Karl Frisch’s boondoggle at Dunn Loring ES even though it’s clearly not needed.


You're the one who is lying by downplaying the costs. Falls Church is projected to total $173 million. Centreville is expected to be $290 million. Western HS site acquisition is anticipated to be $50 million. The next two HS renovations after that will approach a total of 1 billion. How on earth did I make that up?

Read the FCPS FY 2025 proposed budget document, page 78 in the Capital Projects Fund section.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can’t imagine Robyn Lady thought her newsletter would appeal to any of her constituents other than people in Herndon who want Forestville and part of Great Falls redistricted to their school.


Aren't her constituents generally supportive of fiscally conservative policy and paying less taxes to government? They should be loving such a plan that would reduce costs of the taxpayer.


Rezoning and busses cost MORE and will result in higher taxes that should go to teachers pay, not bussing kids past their existing schools to appease a small noisy group of parent unhappy with where they purchased a home.


?? Rezoning will mean shorter bus routes and will save money. Forestviille going to Herndon is much shorter than going to Langley.


DP. Which school do your kids attend?


McLean
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