Pediatricians salaries

Anonymous
I had no idea that pediatricians were so poorly paid. I always assumed that my sister in law who has a nice practice in Baltimore was doing well. Then I found out that she made 89k last year. That is after all the late nights and weekends, her pager is always going off. Is this normal?
Anonymous
Yes, my husband is a surgeon. He was in the OR all day last week (about 9 hours). He will be paid just a bit over $2000 for the operation. He told me about ten years age (before Hillery) docs would get over $10,000. Now the insurance co. get all the $$$. Think about how much we pay per month and how much actually gos to the doctors.
After the surgeries, he has to round on all his patients. he got home well after midnight. And this is usual at our house.
He made 150,000k last year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes, my husband is a surgeon. He was in the OR all day last week (about 9 hours). He will be paid just a bit over $2000 for the operation. He told me about ten years age (before Hillery) docs would get over $10,000. Now the insurance co. get all the $$$. Think about how much we pay per month and how much actually gos to the doctors.
After the surgeries, he has to round on all his patients. he got home well after midnight. And this is usual at our house.
He made 150,000k last year.


Who is Hillery?
Anonymous
I bet the OP and the 2nd Poster are the same. I smell a political agenda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I bet the OP and the 2nd Poster are the same. I smell a political agenda.


Yeah I doubt OP is trying to convince us to pay our pediatricians more.
Anonymous
I don't get the feeling that the OP has a "political agenda" at all. OP is simply making a point and an accurate one at that. Pediatricians are the lowest paid physicians in medicine. They don't go into pediatrics for the money! People have unbelievable assumptions about doctors' salaries. Pediatricians spend three plus years in training at salaries <50k for 80+ work weeks and when they practice afterwards they are lucky to get a salary over 100k in this area. The physician assistants in surgical practices make more with a lot less training. And don't forget the 100k+ student loans to payback from med school ...
Anonymous
This is true-if Hillary or Obama gets their hands on the healthcare system we will see more and more people who would/should have been a doctor go into another field. The reasons are self evident-someone who is a doctor is obviously smart..very smart and they could do about anything. Why should they go into a field where they study for sometimes over ten years to have the government decide what they should be making in their business practice and each office is it's own small business. I want my doctors making lots of money-they deserve it!!
Anonymous
I'm a physician (a surgeon). Pediatricians really are poorly paid. The fact is, noone in their right mind would go into medicine for the money. An MBA would serve better for that purpose. Those medical students coming out of school and choosing peds or psych or family practice know that they will be making less than the gastroenterologists, cardiologists, and surgical subspecialists. They are doing it for love of the art and for the joy of helping their patients. The DC-Baltimore netro area also has some of the lowest physician reimbursement rates in the country, so those of us living here do so for reasons other than money.

I agree that fewer people will be viewing medicine as a viable or desirable career as medicare crumbles and insurance companies inflict ever more ridiculous policies and cut payments and we are squeezed down to fewer and fewer minutes with each patient, but the profession won't die completely until we aren't allowed to spend time with them at all but are just left supervising a bunch of NP's and PA's. Sadly, sometimes I think that may not be far off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is true-if Hillary or Obama gets their hands on the healthcare system we will see more and more people who would/should have been a doctor go into another field. The reasons are self evident-someone who is a doctor is obviously smart..very smart and they could do about anything. Why should they go into a field where they study for sometimes over ten years to have the government decide what they should be making in their business practice and each office is it's own small business. I want my doctors making lots of money-they deserve it!!


Hello? The Reagan de-regulation revolution set this insurance company wind fall in motion A Republican majority since 1996 + 8 years of a Republican presidency has protected the de-regulation of the insurance companies. Republicans are the party of corporate greed, remember? Insurance companies are corporations, remember? My DH is an MD as well, and you are KIDDING yourself if your think the Republican party wants to put doctors back on the golf course at 3:00PM. MD's are seen as mere employees to be burned out and tossed aside by corporate managers watching their bottom line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is true-if Hillary or Obama gets their hands on the healthcare system we will see more and more people who would/should have been a doctor go into another field. The reasons are self evident-someone who is a doctor is obviously smart..very smart and they could do about anything. Why should they go into a field where they study for sometimes over ten years to have the government decide what they should be making in their business practice and each office is it's own small business. I want my doctors making lots of money-they deserve it!!


Hello? The Reagan de-regulation revolution set this insurance company wind fall in motion A Republican majority since 1996 + 8 years of a Republican presidency has protected the de-regulation of the insurance companies. Republicans are the party of corporate greed, remember? Insurance companies are corporations, remember? My DH is an MD as well, and you are KIDDING yourself if your think the Republican party wants to put doctors back on the golf course at 3:00PM. MD's are seen as mere employees to be burned out and tossed aside by corporate managers watching their bottom line.


Dh is 57 years old internist, ok. Back in the 70's with overwhelming Democratic majority in both houses--everyone had a piece of the pie. MD's were rewarded for working insane hours studying for med school, getting thru med school, graduating in the top of your class, grueling residencies for very little pay--but the gravy train was waiting for you when you got through all of that. Doctors have always had the rep for dying penniless. Well now they don't even make the $$$to live well and die poor.
Anonymous
I know a Family Doctor in a busy private practice that at the end of the day, makes about 150K per year. He lives in a TH, drives a honda and works his butt of.

As a mom of a chronically ill child who requires specialists who are sharp, passionate, and with a 400K education, I am extremely worried about the future of medicine and the importance of making sure good doctors are compensated VERY well.

There is no easy answer to this problem.

People who look to the government to bail us out of this are completely ignoring the fact that the government can't efficiently manage ANYTHING AT ALL. However, if we do nothing and just let the health care system carry on as it has been, we're headed down a road to disaster. Honestly, we need to take insurace companies off wall street. How to do this-there's simply no black and white answer, no matter what side of the aisle you sit on.
Anonymous
I went to school with a bunch of people who eventually went to med school (hello JHU), and (no political agenda here) all of them are going into more unusual specialties b/c they can't afford their student loans as a GP or pediatrician. Starting salary is like, 80K in some places. I was actually shocked when I heard. You definitely go into medicine b/c you like it, not for the money these days.
Anonymous
Definitely no political agenda from OP and post that immediately follows it. It's the sad truth. I left private practice as an internist because the money was awful and the hours were even worse. I made $110K and worked my butt off; on top of that I have to pay down $150K in student loan debt.
My friends are leaving practice in droves -- esp. OB's because of increasing malpractice premiums.
The only way to hack it anymore in practice is to accept no insurance.
There will be no good doctors left if this continues. It's just not worth it any more to see patients.
Anonymous
For all the posters complaining about doctors' pay, are you willing to pay more either directly to the doctor's office or through higher insurance premiums? If not, where do you propose the additional money comes from?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For all the posters complaining about doctors' pay, are you willing to pay more either directly to the doctor's office or through higher insurance premiums? If not, where do you propose the additional money comes from?


No, I would not be willing to pay more, and honestly, I think that $150K is a decent salary. There are tons of people who are making a lot less.
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