Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

Travis, and pretty much all the guys she dated, are total losers. I do think it's sad, but being successful/pretty/rich doesn't mean you end up with a good man. Just look at almost all celebrities.

She hasn't ended up with anyone. Wait until she actually pulls the trigger and marries before you decide what kind of person she will end up with.

Da If it's anyone.like her love matty then good luck to her

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious too. Surely set list will change? No way she relegates these to just surprise songs! Honestly almost all of the Red era minus ATW could go (imo)

Yes, it will change. I think that anything past 2014 except for Love Story should go but given it is called eras tour , she probably still wants to give her fans a mix of everything

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

Travis, and pretty much all the guys she dated, are total losers. I do think it's sad, but being successful/pretty/rich doesn't mean you end up with a good man. Just look at almost all celebrities.

Can you please define a "winner" for us?

Haha love this reply.

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She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

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Anonymous wrote:She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

Reverse that from her boyfriends’ perspectives. They are the common denominator us all of their relationships that didn’t work. This doesn’t hit as an insult like you think it does.

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Anonymous wrote:She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

Yet she keeps finding other single guys to attach herself to. What does that say about them?

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Anonymous wrote:She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

Yet she keeps finding other single guys to attach herself to. What does that say about them?

That things are fine in the beginning until it goes to hell. She'd the problem but she knows it

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Anonymous wrote:She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

Yet she keeps finding other single guys to attach herself to. What does that say about them?

That things are fine in the beginning until it goes to hell. She'd the problem but she knows it

Listening to The Prophecy is just so sad for me. For this reason. We all think we're the problem when relationships aren't ending well for us, and she's no exception. That song hits the most vulnerable to me. She's so scrutinized and called the crazy one, and at the end of the day she just wants to be loved like everyone else and "why can't it once be me?"

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

The criticism is also there because Taylor sings about wanting to get married and having babies.

These rock star boy types don't sing about pining for marriage and babies. A lot of them are fine with dating 25 year old groupies forever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She is the common denominator in all these relationships that end badly. Might be more of a question of whether or not anyone wants to settle down with her…other than for her fame and fortune. And even that doesn’t seem to be enough to keep them.

Yet she keeps finding other single guys to attach herself to. What does that say about them?

That things are fine in the beginning until it goes to hell. She'd the problem but she knows it

Why do you presume the end goal is getting married and settling down? According to another thread here nobody needs a man for anything or much less wants to be married to one.

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

The criticism is also there because Taylor sings about wanting to get married and having babies.

These rock star boy types don't sing about pining for marriage and babies. A lot of them are fine with dating 25 year old groupies forever.

She probably doesn't want to do all that but her fans probably do so she's telling them what they want to hear. It's all part of her persona but it doesn't mean it's authentic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

I don’t think there is a double standard. Taylor can cheat and trash her exes and that just makes her more loved and someone that women think is a great role model for their kids and have made her a billionaire. No one has held her accountable in any way. She gets far more praise and reward than anything else. No one cares at all how she treats men or cheats. They pay gazillions to go and see her sing and bring their teens and kids to hear her songs and cheating and how awful all the men in her life have ever been. So if it’s for. Her her to cheat and trash me. Then no one should have an issue when men cheating and trashing their exes…instead they should take their sons and say he’s a good role model just like women do with taylor. There is no backlash. her albums go to # 1 concerts sell out. There is no poor Taylor the victim, so hard done by. She is getting off scott free for bad behaviour and being rewarded for it just like men.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

I don’t think there is a double standard. Taylor can cheat and trash her exes and that just makes her more loved and someone that women think is a great role model for their kids and have made her a billionaire. No one has held her accountable in any way. She gets far more praise and reward than anything else. No one cares at all how she treats men or cheats. They pay gazillions to go and see her sing and bring their teens and kids to hear her songs and cheating and how awful all the men in her life have ever been. So if it’s for. Her her to cheat and trash me. Then no one should have an issue when men cheating and trashing their exes…instead they should take their sons and say he’s a good role model just like women do with taylor. There is no backlash. her albums go to # 1 concerts sell out. There is no poor Taylor the victim, so hard done by. She is getting off scott free for bad behaviour and being rewarded for it just like men.

#boymom ?
And #winemom ?
Am I right? Either way it’s more psycho than a bag of limited edition flavored Oreos and I am So here for it! Unleash your crazy! I gives me life!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do Joe and especially Travis listen to this album and don't get jealous?! I love the chill vibe of TTPD so I have been playing it on repeat since the release, and I think I am developing a crush on Matty Healy just by listening to all these sensual lyrics, lol.
Eyes like remedy, scratch your head you fall asleep like a golden retriever, the way you hold me is holy, my wild boy and this wild joy, my bed sheets are ablaze, messy top kiss how I long for our trysts, I lost my twin, all those nights you kept me going I swirled you into all of my poems, everyone we know understands why it's meant to be, I am his lady and having his baby...she literally has a fantasy wedding to this guy at the end of Daddy I Love Him 😳

I don't see how a man who would be ok with their partner releasing this into the world, esp. when the star-crossed lover is still unmarried and actually the one who pulled out, so technically not completely out of the picture and could choose to come back at any moment.

But don’t most musicians’ significant others have to deal with this? I mean Bono got together with his wife at age 15 but went on to write love and heartbreak songs for decades after. He is probably taking some artistic liberties and taking inspiration from books, movies, songs, etc as it’s not all drawn from direct experiences of a long-term marriage/coparenting relationship.

Same with the lead singer of Green Day Billy Jo Armstrong, Bruce Springsteen, John Bon Jovi, and many more who are in decades long relationships that started young. They still have themes of heartbreak and longing but doesn’t mean they are in miserable relationships all the time.

Bono cheated on his wife and they almost broke up multiple times.

Jon Bon Jovi admits he’s waded into the “shallow pool” of the rock-star life over the years. He cheated too.

Well, you kind of proved my point. We don’t have threads and threads about these men cheating on their wives or treating them poorly Or wondering how their song lyrics affect their wives and mothers of their children. Yet there’s constant criticism of Taylor and how bad she is at relationships and how much she must be hurting Travis by putting out these albums. Seems like a big double standard. I wonder why.

There is a lot of discussion on other boards. I would guess the listening audience of Swifties doesn’t overlap much with Bono and Bon Jovi.

I mean yes random subreddits I’m sure but come on, you know there’s a lot more criticism of Taylor. There’s a double standard for women. Rockstars are boys will be boys and of course they’re going to cheat… Taylor is destroying these poor men’s lives and can’t settle down and is wasting her eggs. It’s totally different.

I don’t think there is a double standard. Taylor can cheat and trash her exes and that just makes her more loved and someone that women think is a great role model for their kids and have made her a billionaire. No one has held her accountable in any way. She gets far more praise and reward than anything else. No one cares at all how she treats men or cheats. They pay gazillions to go and see her sing and bring their teens and kids to hear her songs and cheating and how awful all the men in her life have ever been. So if it’s for. Her her to cheat and trash me. Then no one should have an issue when men cheating and trashing their exes…instead they should take their sons and say he’s a good role model just like women do with taylor. There is no backlash. her albums go to # 1 concerts sell out. There is no poor Taylor the victim, so hard done by. She is getting off scott free for bad behaviour and being rewarded for it just like men.

Won't someone think of the poor maligned men she's singing about . And it's behavior, not behaviour.