How bad is Miner Elementary?

[Anonymous]

Get thee to Two Rivers. Mundo Verde, Center City or Kipp

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is key...if there's no white kids in the school then it is doomed. How come DCPS headquarters hasn't figured that out yet? We need an all out blitz to recruit white kids to DCPS....I am open up for ideas

Are you serious? PLEASE go away.

I wish there were way to discuss the Hill schools without these kinds of racially clueless/hostile comments.

I live on the Hill and would totally consider Miner, Tyler, or Payne for Pre-K 3 or 4 if they were convenient and I was confident in the aftercare. (For me, aftercare is actually the sticking point with these schools.) With small classes and high ratios, the fact is that most pre-K classes are going to be good places as long as they have good teachers. There just isn't a need for "differentiation" for THREE YEAR OLDS - three year olds all pretty much have the same needs. If anything, the less advantaged 3 year olds might benefit from more exposure to books & pre-literacy activities, which would benefit all the kids.

I'll bite - this is true, about 3 year olds, but I'm not sure you should justify your "free daycare" if you wouldn't deign to attend the school after PK. So while you're parting yourself on the back for being racially sensitive, what you're really doing is advocating a scene that will pop up all over the city soon - a repeat of Ludlow-Taylor the last 5 years, where all the little kids are white and the rest of the school is black. How does this help - since you're so clued-in?

If Miner's upper-grades black kids started outperforming all those IB white kids at Brent and Maury on tests, as they did last year at Ludlow-Taylor, I'd be OK with that.

have you looked at the PARCC results? nothing to brag about for LT. makes the DC CAS results look like a mirage

I was hoping PP could point to the data evidencing that AA students in Grades 3-5 at LT outperformed IB white students at Brent on DC-CAS and the years during which this occurred. Waiting ...

or simply ignore evidence that the results were far more telling on the more rigorous common core based test which was far more difficult to game via test prep?

Not PP, but I can clarify: on the most recent PARCC exams, LT's scores (40-ish percent proficiency) were on par with Maury and Two Rivers. Brent's scores were indeed higher. I think the PP was pointing out that LT's students (nearly all black in the testing grades - at least not enough whites to differentiate statistically) performed on par with Maury's students who, in the testing grades, are much more white. For this, LT deserves enormous credit.

Why does LT deserve enormous credit because their "nearly all black in the testing grades" students score on par with Maury's "much more white" students?

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is key...if there's no white kids in the school then it is doomed. How come DCPS headquarters hasn't figured that out yet? We need an all out blitz to recruit white kids to DCPS....I am open up for ideas

Are you serious? PLEASE go away.

I wish there were way to discuss the Hill schools without these kinds of racially clueless/hostile comments.

I live on the Hill and would totally consider Miner, Tyler, or Payne for Pre-K 3 or 4 if they were convenient and I was confident in the aftercare. (For me, aftercare is actually the sticking point with these schools.) With small classes and high ratios, the fact is that most pre-K classes are going to be good places as long as they have good teachers. There just isn't a need for "differentiation" for THREE YEAR OLDS - three year olds all pretty much have the same needs. If anything, the less advantaged 3 year olds might benefit from more exposure to books & pre-literacy activities, which would benefit all the kids.

I'll bite - this is true, about 3 year olds, but I'm not sure you should justify your "free daycare" if you wouldn't deign to attend the school after PK. So while you're parting yourself on the back for being racially sensitive, what you're really doing is advocating a scene that will pop up all over the city soon - a repeat of Ludlow-Taylor the last 5 years, where all the little kids are white and the rest of the school is black. How does this help - since you're so clued-in?

If Miner's upper-grades black kids started outperforming all those IB white kids at Brent and Maury on tests, as they did last year at Ludlow-Taylor, I'd be OK with that.

have you looked at the PARCC results? nothing to brag about for LT. makes the DC CAS results look like a mirage

I was hoping PP could point to the data evidencing that AA students in Grades 3-5 at LT outperformed IB white students at Brent on DC-CAS and the years during which this occurred. Waiting ...

or simply ignore evidence that the results were far more telling on the more rigorous common core based test which was far more difficult to game via test prep?

Not PP, but I can clarify: on the most recent PARCC exams, LT's scores (40-ish percent proficiency) were on par with Maury and Two Rivers. Brent's scores were indeed higher. I think the PP was pointing out that LT's students (nearly all black in the testing grades - at least not enough whites to differentiate statistically) performed on par with Maury's students who, in the testing grades, are much more white. For this, LT deserves enormous credit.

Why does LT deserve enormous credit because their "nearly all black in the testing grades" students score on par with Maury's "much more white" students?

Maury outscored LT by a lot. Please correct this.

[Anonymous]

NP.

No, Maury didn't outscore LT "by a lot" on last year's PARCC. Look it up yourself here http://results.osse.dc.gov/


LT -
ELA 42% proficient or advanced
Math 40% prof or advanced

Maury
ELA 44% proficient or advanced
Math 44% proficient or advanced

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Anonymous wrote:NP.

No, Maury didn't outscore LT "by a lot" on last year's PARCC. Look it up yourself here http://results.osse.dc.gov/


LT -
ELA 42% proficient or advanced
Math 40% prof or advanced

Maury
ELA 44% proficient or advanced
Math 44% proficient or advanced

Check the year before.

Maury is a far better school in my opinion and I know kids in both schools and toured both. At the end of the day we went charter.

Miner is great for early childhood education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP.

No, Maury didn't outscore LT "by a lot" on last year's PARCC. Look it up yourself here http://results.osse.dc.gov/


LT -
ELA 42% proficient or advanced
Math 40% prof or advanced

Maury
ELA 44% proficient or advanced
Math 44% proficient or advanced

Check the year before.

Maury is a far better school in my opinion and I know kids in both schools and toured both. At the end of the day we went charter.

Miner is great for early childhood education

Check the year before? LT is a great school that has consistently tested well despite being Title I. Don't understand this need some ppl have to undermine it.

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Anonymous wrote:NP.

No, Maury didn't outscore LT "by a lot" on last year's PARCC. Look it up yourself here http://results.osse.dc.gov/


LT -
ELA 42% proficient or advanced
Math 40% prof or advanced

Maury
ELA 44% proficient or advanced
Math 44% proficient or advanced

Check the year before.

Maury is a far better school in my opinion and I know kids in both schools and toured both. At the end of the day we went charter.

Miner is great for early childhood education

The year before math scores were also even. LT's ELA was lower.

2015
LT
ELA 26%
Math 40%

Maury
ELA 45%
Math 43%

Actually I'm wondering why Maury didn't make much progress year over year?

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is key...if there's no white kids in the school then it is doomed. How come DCPS headquarters hasn't figured that out yet? We need an all out blitz to recruit white kids to DCPS....I am open up for ideas

Are you serious? PLEASE go away.

I wish there were way to discuss the Hill schools without these kinds of racially clueless/hostile comments.

I live on the Hill and would totally consider Miner, Tyler, or Payne for Pre-K 3 or 4 if they were convenient and I was confident in the aftercare. (For me, aftercare is actually the sticking point with these schools.) With small classes and high ratios, the fact is that most pre-K classes are going to be good places as long as they have good teachers. There just isn't a need for "differentiation" for THREE YEAR OLDS - three year olds all pretty much have the same needs. If anything, the less advantaged 3 year olds might benefit from more exposure to books & pre-literacy activities, which would benefit all the kids.

I'll bite - this is true, about 3 year olds, but I'm not sure you should justify your "free daycare" if you wouldn't deign to attend the school after PK. So while you're parting yourself on the back for being racially sensitive, what you're really doing is advocating a scene that will pop up all over the city soon - a repeat of Ludlow-Taylor the last 5 years, where all the little kids are white and the rest of the school is black. How does this help - since you're so clued-in?

If Miner's upper-grades black kids started outperforming all those IB white kids at Brent and Maury on tests, as they did last year at Ludlow-Taylor, I'd be OK with that.

have you looked at the PARCC results? nothing to brag about for LT. makes the DC CAS results look like a mirage

I was hoping PP could point to the data evidencing that AA students in Grades 3-5 at LT outperformed IB white students at Brent on DC-CAS and the years during which this occurred. Waiting ...

or simply ignore evidence that the results were far more telling on the more rigorous common core based test which was far more difficult to game via test prep?

Not PP, but I can clarify: on the most recent PARCC exams, LT's scores (40-ish percent proficiency) were on par with Maury and Two Rivers. Brent's scores were indeed higher. I think the PP was pointing out that LT's students (nearly all black in the testing grades - at least not enough whites to differentiate statistically) performed on par with Maury's students who, in the testing grades, are much more white. For this, LT deserves enormous credit.

Why does LT deserve enormous credit because their "nearly all black in the testing grades" students score on par with Maury's "much more white" students?

LT was just awarded the National Blue Ribbon award largely because of their success toward closing the achievement gap. So they are getting enormous national-level credit for being a good performing Title 1 school. BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if the school loses that Title 1 designation in the next few years, as the school is maintaining more high SES families in K, 1st, 2nd grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is key...if there's no white kids in the school then it is doomed. How come DCPS headquarters hasn't figured that out yet? We need an all out blitz to recruit white kids to DCPS....I am open up for ideas

This is technically true- but only because White kids tend to come from higher SES homes and be well "better" kids, since they tend to have received better parenting and live in more nourishing surroundings.

I find it incredible that DC has schools that almost 100% African American- what does that say to this community. We all know this is because the white/ hispanic parents will find another school if they possibly can. If we want to create a better city schools system we need to ensure no school is left behind, and that every group would consider each school. If a school is 100% African American, we need to change that STAT. Any ideas?

some areas of DC are 100% AA, so 100% students IB for schools in those areas are 100%. I volunteered once in an elementary school in Anacostia and the student population simply reflected the people who lived in the area of the school, 100% AA.

But when it is form a mostly white area that is a problem. All black equals heritage and community, all white equals white supremacy. Lame

[Anonymous]

Talking about all anything in DC is silly. Even the whitest of DC public schools are no more than 3/4 white.

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Anonymous wrote:Diversity is key...if there's no white kids in the school then it is doomed. How come DCPS headquarters hasn't figured that out yet? We need an all out blitz to recruit white kids to DCPS....I am open up for ideas

Are you serious? PLEASE go away.

I wish there were way to discuss the Hill schools without these kinds of racially clueless/hostile comments.

I live on the Hill and would totally consider Miner, Tyler, or Payne for Pre-K 3 or 4 if they were convenient and I was confident in the aftercare. (For me, aftercare is actually the sticking point with these schools.) With small classes and high ratios, the fact is that most pre-K classes are going to be good places as long as they have good teachers. There just isn't a need for "differentiation" for THREE YEAR OLDS - three year olds all pretty much have the same needs. If anything, the less advantaged 3 year olds might benefit from more exposure to books & pre-literacy activities, which would benefit all the kids.

I'll bite - this is true, about 3 year olds, but I'm not sure you should justify your "free daycare" if you wouldn't deign to attend the school after PK. So while you're parting yourself on the back for being racially sensitive, what you're really doing is advocating a scene that will pop up all over the city soon - a repeat of Ludlow-Taylor the last 5 years, where all the little kids are white and the rest of the school is black. How does this help - since you're so clued-in?

If Miner's upper-grades black kids started outperforming all those IB white kids at Brent and Maury on tests, as they did last year at Ludlow-Taylor, I'd be OK with that.

have you looked at the PARCC results? nothing to brag about for LT. makes the DC CAS results look like a mirage

I was hoping PP could point to the data evidencing that AA students in Grades 3-5 at LT outperformed IB white students at Brent on DC-CAS and the years during which this occurred. Waiting ...

or simply ignore evidence that the results were far more telling on the more rigorous common core based test which was far more difficult to game via test prep?

Not PP, but I can clarify: on the most recent PARCC exams, LT's scores (40-ish percent proficiency) were on par with Maury and Two Rivers. Brent's scores were indeed higher. I think the PP was pointing out that LT's students (nearly all black in the testing grades - at least not enough whites to differentiate statistically) performed on par with Maury's students who, in the testing grades, are much more white. For this, LT deserves enormous credit.

Why does LT deserve enormous credit because their "nearly all black in the testing grades" students score on par with Maury's "much more white" students?

LT was just awarded the National Blue Ribbon award largely because of their success toward closing the achievement gap. So they are getting enormous national-level credit for being a good performing Title 1 school. BTW, I wouldn't be surprised if the school loses that Title 1 designation in the next few years, as the school is maintaining more high SES families in K, 1st, 2nd grades.

LT is a fine school but National Blue Ribbon is not an award to be proud of.

[Anonymous]

LT is a fine school but National Blue Ribbon is not an award to be proud of.

PP, you are a troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP.

No, Maury didn't outscore LT "by a lot" on last year's PARCC. Look it up yourself here http://results.osse.dc.gov/


LT -
ELA 42% proficient or advanced
Math 40% prof or advanced

Maury
ELA 44% proficient or advanced
Math 44% proficient or advanced

Check the year before.

Maury is a far better school in my opinion and I know kids in both schools and toured both. At the end of the day we went charter.

Miner is great for early childhood education

The year before math scores were also even. LT's ELA was lower.

2015
LT
ELA 26%
Math 40%

Maury
ELA 45%
Math 43%

Actually I'm wondering why Maury didn't make much progress year over year?

I'm having a hard time understanding why ya'll are so excited about these stats and arguing over which school is better when what you're looking at are all around rather abysmal scores. What does it take to realize you're in a lousy school?

[Anonymous]

+100.

I'll go further, If you need to worry about PARCC test scores, the school isn't worth it in the testing grades.

Our parents worry about other things, like is the sound system on the stage working right, did most of the families bail for charters between 4th and 5th this year, and will the National Geography Bee prep club go forward into the spring semester.

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Anonymous wrote:We have friends in the PK3 program (white, if it matters). They like it and are not playing the lottery for pk4.

Are they moving then?