On paper they did, but in practice is a different story. We had 30 kids at a summer camp last year and 3 adults (two women and one man) in a coed camping situation. It's just not possible to adhere to the rules at all times with numbers like that. |
The Girls Scouts runs their own summer camps with counselors. I was surprised when I registered my son for a summer camp and then was asked to volunteer at the camp. |
I wish Girl Scouts would change its name to remove "scouts" - it has never been an affiliate of BSA, and the association with BSA does us no favors.
I was a Girl Scout and I went to an all-girls school: I think single sex environments are really important for boys and girls. It's a shame BSA abandoned that - by letting it become family camp with sisters participating but not allowed to join, and then by doing the coed-but-only-sometimes thing. There are other great coed youth groups that do it better, with less baggage, if you want coed. |
That's so unsafe and I'm sorry to hear it. What you're describing does not happen in Girl Scouts: if we don't have enough adults, the camp (or other event) is canceled - I've had several canceled over the years and it stinks, but I appreciate that GS as an organization is a stickler for that stuff. |
What about trans scouts |
Correction, the kid touchers destroyed boy scouts. |
Because Girl Scouts doesn’t need the money.
Boy Scouts needs the money because they lost all the membership from Mormons and all the pedophile lawsuits. |
Why would they need to? They have boy scouts and co-ed. It's like asking why white people can't join the Black Student club. You don't have to be a member of everything! |
Um, PP provided information from the organization, she or he did not say they agreed with it. Do you get that? |
Girl Scouts is open to trans kids. |
I believe they are open to everyone except cis boys. |
+1 Stop blaming girls and being scared of them. Boy will eventually have to learn to work with girls and maybe marry them. We have a linked troop and the boys troop blames everything bad on the girls. It’s a bunch of SpEd boys who just can deal with it. They do 90% of activities separately. It’s 2024. Deal with it. Boy Scouts screwed up decades ago and allowed all the kid touching. Now they are paying the price. They had to financially allow girls to increase membership since the Mormons left. Girl Scouts is financially sound and has over $60M. They don’t need boys. These are private companies and can do what they want. |
NP. Addressing only the bold above: Teen girls did have the opportunity to join one of Boy Scouts' programs then and for decades before that. When I was in high schol in the early 1980s I was in a BSA program called Explorers, which had troop-like groups of both boys and girls organized around a specific interest. I was an an Explorers troop for vocal performance. There were others in our area -- one was about boating, I think another was around something agricultural (rather like 4H). But absolutely, tween/teen girls participated in BSA's Explorers equally with boys. I don't know if Explorers or something similar continued to exist, but the idea of girls in BSA was not at all a new thing, when BSA started advertising that girls could join "regular" troops. |
Sort of. The rules around adults bunking with kids have changed, but the ratios are still much lower than Girl Scouts. But the bigger issue is that the rigid hierarchy of Boy Scouts creates an environment in which a bad actor has access to boys, and total authority over them. Add low ratios and an ethos that values "loyalty" over safety, and you have a recipe for abuse. |
Nothing you described says they participated equally. They didn’t earn ranks like boys and so it wasn’t equal. |