What rejections surprised you the most this cycle?

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Anonymous wrote:These should not come as surprises. Many more qualified applicants applying to southern non or less woke university environments.

Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Completely invalidates everything you said.

DP. The PP is correct. Truth hurts, I guess?

Nope! It's just a real life example of "old man yells at cloud"

Hardly. Many people actually are realizing that schools in the south are often far less ridiculous when it comes to social policies and protests. There, I didn't even use the buzzword that triggers you so!

The "non-woke" schools you rave about usually just have more prevalent racism and homophobia. Not sure I'd call that "less ridiculous social policies".

Nobody's triggered sweetie, that's just the voices in your head

Really? Provide some actual citations which prove your claim. In reality, the "non-woke" schools simply don't have screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting every single thing and accusing others of "racism" or whatever the "ism" of the day is.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052650979/mcwhorters-new-book-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race

NP here.
You really know absolutely nothing about college campuses, at least not the ones you criticize and label "woke."
The only "screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting" at my kid's school (one of your dreaded Ivies) are street corner preachers spouting hellfire and brimstone. Being a Christian, my kid takes them head on every time. There is no one screaming about racism, though there have been a few demonstrations from both perspectives of Israeli/Palestine situation. But, even with regard to that, trying to claim that demonstraters are "nutjobs" is trying to curb their free speech, something you likely claim to support, but when someone disagrees with you, you try to cancel it with "nutjob." I see your m.o.
Stop spreading propaganda. You don't realize you are the cancel culture.

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In general southern schools are cheaper.

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Anonymous wrote:This is where stupid people who think they are intelligent start talking about "yield protection".

Yield protection is not a thing at state schools but is at some private ones. Typically these are ones that value "demonstrated interest". This is a clue that they might take a slightly less "qualified" (however this is defined) kid over a more qualified one if they think the kid will attend. Only a clue, college admissions is not a transparent process so one can never know can we.

Why every applicant does not "demonstrate interest" at every school they apply to is beyond me. If you want to attend, you must make them think "you are my #1 school and I would love to attend, I've been dreaming bout it"

Now post covid, with all the virtual visits, it is extremely simple to "demonstrate interest"

So as a parent who’s new to this process—how exactly do you demonstrate interest beyond a glowing, enthusiastic essay?

According to our CCO - visit, follow on instagram and interact with posts, do online info sessions and click through links in the emails they send.

This is such a bunch of horse sh--. Is it a popularity contest? Are they not capable of making decision as to who they want based on qualifications (whatever those are)? "Do you like me enough" has no role in this process where these kids are already stretched thin with APs, sports, ECs, work, etc. etc. They expect too much.

It's not a popularity contest - they want to admit students who want to attend - and this is how they figure out if that is true or not.

I can’t believe with 50K+ plus applications they’re actually checking who followed posts on Instagram. That’s nuts.

I’ve been listening to “Your College Bound Kid” podcast. They covered this very topic. (Of course, I can’t find the specific episode now that I am looking for it. ) Yes, colleges do track. It’s very easy to get a report of who clicked through, opened an email, made a visit etc. It’s one more way they use to weed out people who will never come. I really recommend YCBK, l learned about it here. Even though my own kids will not be trying for the highly selective, it has helped me put the whole process in perspective.

Most colleges don’t do this.

The ones who consider demonstrated interest do….

Most don’t consider demonstrated interest.

Check the common data set.

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Anonymous wrote:This is where stupid people who think they are intelligent start talking about "yield protection".

Yield protection is not a thing at state schools but is at some private ones. Typically these are ones that value "demonstrated interest". This is a clue that they might take a slightly less "qualified" (however this is defined) kid over a more qualified one if they think the kid will attend. Only a clue, college admissions is not a transparent process so one can never know can we.

Why every applicant does not "demonstrate interest" at every school they apply to is beyond me. If you want to attend, you must make them think "you are my #1 school and I would love to attend, I've been dreaming bout it"

Now post covid, with all the virtual visits, it is extremely simple to "demonstrate interest"

So as a parent who’s new to this process—how exactly do you demonstrate interest beyond a glowing, enthusiastic essay?

According to our CCO - visit, follow on instagram and interact with posts, do online info sessions and click through links in the emails they send.

This is such a bunch of horse sh--. Is it a popularity contest? Are they not capable of making decision as to who they want based on qualifications (whatever those are)? "Do you like me enough" has no role in this process where these kids are already stretched thin with APs, sports, ECs, work, etc. etc. They expect too much.

It's not a popularity contest - they want to admit students who want to attend - and this is how they figure out if that is true or not.

I can’t believe with 50K+ plus applications they’re actually checking who followed posts on Instagram. That’s nuts.

I’ve been listening to “Your College Bound Kid” podcast. They covered this very topic. (Of course, I can’t find the specific episode now that I am looking for it. ) Yes, colleges do track. It’s very easy to get a report of who clicked through, opened an email, made a visit etc. It’s one more way they use to weed out people who will never come. I really recommend YCBK, l learned about it here. Even though my own kids will not be trying for the highly selective, it has helped me put the whole process in perspective.

Most colleges don’t do this.

The ones who consider demonstrated interest do….

Most don’t consider demonstrated interest.

Check the common data set.

Ok: https://irsa.utk.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/107/2023/07/CDS_2022-2023_Full.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, which is nothing. I'm from one of the southern states where all of these kids want to enroll in the state supported institutions, and I'm glad these schools are being so selective. It's not the U of ....'s job to entertain your out of state kids because they want a "fun school" in a warm climate. That is not their mission. If the school wants your kid because your kid is awesome or they want your tuition $$, great, but stop complaining about selectivity. There are thousands of in state kids who also have great stats and a bright future, AND are residents of the state that supports the institution.

+1. I could not agree more.

This is true. And I wish MD did the same for all those kids in-state who have the stats. I love the idea of guaranteed admission for top 5%.

Top 5% get into UMD now. My kids hs class has around 400 students and 70 got in.

Agree, plus Maryland’s in state acceptance is still high. Where it gets difficult is for kids who are not in top 15 to 20 percent of class at competitive upper middle class high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any rejections to top schools are surprising. It depends on so many factors

I agree - rejections at especially the top 20 (maybe top 30) schools shouldn't be a surprise. But many rejections at much lower ranked schools are a surprise. University of Tennessee had an acceptance rate of 75% in 2021, and this cycle only a 35%. I wonder if Alabama & Kentucky will become the new Tennessee (in terms of admissions) next year - where all these kids apply there thinking that it is their "safety" based on data from prior years only to find that it is not. Luckily, we have not had any rejections yet, and the only ones we are waiting on are top 20 schools (where the rejections will probably begin for us).

It's called the "carpet bagger" effect. Y'all ain't wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, which is nothing. I'm from one of the southern states where all of these kids want to enroll in the state supported institutions, and I'm glad these schools are being so selective. It's not the U of ....'s job to entertain your out of state kids because they want a "fun school" in a warm climate. That is not their mission. If the school wants your kid because your kid is awesome or they want your tuition $$, great, but stop complaining about selectivity. There are thousands of in state kids who also have great stats and a bright future, AND are residents of the state that supports the institution.

I’m not from a warm, fun state but I agree with you!

Save the sob story. The DMV schools don't give priority to their state residents (and I think they should) so I dgaf if your precious sunshine school is inundated with kids from the NE.

Wow. You are one seriously unpleasant poster. Sorry your kid was rejected.
DP

I think PP may have accidentally shown part of why U of ....rejected their kid. Lots of bad mojo crossing state lines.

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Anonymous wrote:In general southern schools are cheaper.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:These should not come as surprises. Many more qualified applicants applying to southern non or less woke university environments.

Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Completely invalidates everything you said.

DP. The PP is correct. Truth hurts, I guess?

Nope! It's just a real life example of "old man yells at cloud"

Hardly. Many people actually are realizing that schools in the south are often far less ridiculous when it comes to social policies and protests. There, I didn't even use the buzzword that triggers you so!

The "non-woke" schools you rave about usually just have more prevalent racism and homophobia. Not sure I'd call that "less ridiculous social policies".

Nobody's triggered sweetie, that's just the voices in your head

Really? Provide some actual citations which prove your claim. In reality, the "non-woke" schools simply don't have screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting every single thing and accusing others of "racism" or whatever the "ism" of the day is.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052650979/mcwhorters-new-book-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race

NP here.
You really know absolutely nothing about college campuses, at least not the ones you criticize and label "woke."
The only "screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting" at my kid's school (one of your dreaded Ivies) are street corner preachers spouting hellfire and brimstone. Being a Christian, my kid takes them head on every time. There is no one screaming about racism, though there have been a few demonstrations from both perspectives of Israeli/Palestine situation. But, even with regard to that, trying to claim that demonstraters are "nutjobs" is trying to curb their free speech, something you likely claim to support, but when someone disagrees with you, you try to cancel it with "nutjob." I see your m.o.
Stop spreading propaganda. You don't realize you are the cancel culture.

Right back at you. In spades. Anyone who is aware of current events in any way has seen the unhinged "pro-Palestinian" protesters at these absurd schools, so you can stop your gaslighting and take a seat.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-27/pro-palestinian-protesters-shut-down-event-organized-by-jewish-students-at-uc-berkeley
https://apnews.com/article/university-berkeley-jewish-event-palestinian-protest-e45ca6c36b05bb6d6a18eaa8df2396fe
https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/12/01/harvard-students-terrified-after-pro-palestinian-protesters-disrupt-classes-with-antisemitic-chants-and-bullhorns/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/us/students-justice-palestine-campus-protests.html

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Clemson, UF, UTK

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Anonymous wrote:These should not come as surprises. Many more qualified applicants applying to southern non or less woke university environments.

Buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords. Completely invalidates everything you said.

DP. The PP is correct. Truth hurts, I guess?

Nope! It's just a real life example of "old man yells at cloud"

Hardly. Many people actually are realizing that schools in the south are often far less ridiculous when it comes to social policies and protests. There, I didn't even use the buzzword that triggers you so!

The "non-woke" schools you rave about usually just have more prevalent racism and homophobia. Not sure I'd call that "less ridiculous social policies".

Nobody's triggered sweetie, that's just the voices in your head

Really? Provide some actual citations which prove your claim. In reality, the "non-woke" schools simply don't have screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting every single thing and accusing others of "racism" or whatever the "ism" of the day is.

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052650979/mcwhorters-new-book-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race

NP here.
You really know absolutely nothing about college campuses, at least not the ones you criticize and label "woke."
The only "screaming, unhinged, nutjobs protesting" at my kid's school (one of your dreaded Ivies) are street corner preachers spouting hellfire and brimstone. Being a Christian, my kid takes them head on every time. There is no one screaming about racism, though there have been a few demonstrations from both perspectives of Israeli/Palestine situation. But, even with regard to that, trying to claim that demonstraters are "nutjobs" is trying to curb their free speech, something you likely claim to support, but when someone disagrees with you, you try to cancel it with "nutjob." I see your m.o.
Stop spreading propaganda. You don't realize you are the cancel culture.

Right back at you. In spades. Anyone who is aware of current events in any way has seen the unhinged "pro-Palestinian" protesters at these absurd schools, so you can stop your gaslighting and take a seat.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-27/pro-palestinian-protesters-shut-down-event-organized-by-jewish-students-at-uc-berkeley
https://apnews.com/article/university-berkeley-jewish-event-palestinian-protest-e45ca6c36b05bb6d6a18eaa8df2396fe
https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/12/01/harvard-students-terrified-after-pro-palestinian-protesters-disrupt-classes-with-antisemitic-chants-and-bullhorns/
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/us/students-justice-palestine-campus-protests.html

SJP also existed at UF until it was shut down by the school. So much for free speech.

And yes protests do happen at "non-woke schools"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thestate.com/news/local/education/article228180734.html

Again, PLEASE step outside of your schizo den

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any rejections to top schools are surprising. It depends on so many factors

I agree - rejections at especially the top 20 (maybe top 30) schools shouldn't be a surprise. But many rejections at much lower ranked schools are a surprise. University of Tennessee had an acceptance rate of 75% in 2021, and this cycle only a 35%. I wonder if Alabama & Kentucky will become the new Tennessee (in terms of admissions) next year - where all these kids apply there thinking that it is their "safety" based on data from prior years only to find that it is not. Luckily, we have not had any rejections yet, and the only ones we are waiting on are top 20 schools (where the rejections will probably begin for us).

It's called the "carpet bagger" effect. Y'all ain't wanted.

Goodness gracious. Not true at all. Southern state representing here. We do want you and all of your great kids. Southern hospitality is real and we are happy to show you around. are there many thing that we are learning as Deep South schools? Yes. Are we also welcoming to others and excited about our growth? Yes. We don’t mock everyone and call them Yankees. You will find a mix of well-educated professionals, academics, family business employees, and farmers. And we see them all the same. What we don’t like is being talked down to because of where we are born. We love our warm culture (and can recognize its complicated history). Come on down and eat some mud bugs. You prolly gon stay a while

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw, which is nothing. I'm from one of the southern states where all of these kids want to enroll in the state supported institutions, and I'm glad these schools are being so selective. It's not the U of ....'s job to entertain your out of state kids because they want a "fun school" in a warm climate. That is not their mission. If the school wants your kid because your kid is awesome or they want your tuition $$, great, but stop complaining about selectivity. There are thousands of in state kids who also have great stats and a bright future, AND are residents of the state that supports the institution.

I don’t know why anyone would risk going to a Florida state university. Politics have taken control of all the public schools and they are in a downward spiral. Florida got higher ratings before, mostly because of their grading system, procedures, what was used for ranking . Now that rankings are focusing on outcomes Florida some of the studies have dropped Florida’s education system with a C rating.

The top public schools have always been in the Northeast and the worst have always been the Southern schools. Southern state schools are mostly students coming from these schools. Desantis, the one in charge of bringing the Florida public schools down went to Harvard and Yale.

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Anonymous wrote:I was extremely surprised when Depauw waitlisted my DC. All stats in or beyond top 75 percentile.

Depauw is a safety for most, getting rejected from their means that you should seriously introspect your DC's application.

And, who in their sane mind apply to Depauw!!

That’s rude. DePaul is getting a lot more applications just like everyone else. There are a lot of posters here surprised at being rejected from state schools that used to be safety schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I was extremely surprised when Depauw waitlisted my DC. All stats in or beyond top 75 percentile.

Depauw is a safety for most, getting rejected from their means that you should seriously introspect your DC's application.

And, who in their sane mind apply to Depauw!!

That’s rude. DePaul is getting a lot more applications just like everyone else. There are a lot of posters here surprised at being rejected from state schools that used to be safety schools.

DePaul is not Depauw. They are two separate schools in two very different environments. They have the Midwest in common. That’s about it.