JFC OP. Look, I'm as protective of my kid as anyone but loosen the reins a bit. Instead of shelter, shelter, shelter, talk to your kids about handling the things they see. They will see fights. They will see making out. They'll see kids vaping in the bathrooms. They'll hear cursing (and worse). It's public school MS and they are all a bit like the hunger games (my child was all honors and still saw this stuff). You're concern over the culture wars is just a big LOL from me. Good luck with that . . . and I promise you it means more to you than to your kid. |
Sexual assault is not a "cultur war." Are you effing kidding me? |
That is linked to CRT and equity. They reduce punishments for bad behavior to reduce the disparity in punishment between races. In some places they even bring up a 'schools to prison pipeline'. Loudoun and Fairfax are implementing a PBIS system to reward students for good behavior. Administrators are trained on this. I suspect it provides an incentive to punish white kids more. |
What the hell??!! |
OP here.
It seems that the discussion has been derailed. Please understand, I am not asking your opinions about my family's values, if I am overprotecting my child etc. This goes both ways of course, as I am not questioning yours. I am not engaging into discussions on these issues, each family knows what's best for their children and noone else (and certainly, not some anonymous posters in DCUM). I made a straightforwards question, how those 2 MS compare with others in Fairfax like Frost in terms of a) safety b) controversial issues c) academics. So far, based on the publicly available statistics (to pp who posted the link: thanks so much!) and based on some anonymous responses (which I have no way to find out if they are all distinct or not) my impression is that wrt (a) those 2 schools are slightly better, wrt (b) there's no difference and wrt (c) they are slightly better. If anyone else wants to share his/her experience, please do. Thanks |
But you haven't because aside from talking about behavioral issues, you have not specified what you mean by culture wars/controversial issues. And people have responded to say that most schools have students who are focused on academics. |
So you want me to enumerate all controversies within FCPS that are happening these times? I think everyone here knows pretty well what those controversies are, no matter their side on these issues. |
Your questions are not as straightforward as you suggest because: 1. The statistics that schools report on safety issues are not rigorously vetted and depend on how current rules are interpreted and reported by individual school administrators. So you can pretend that they allow for apples-to-apples comparisons, but that ignores the fact that administrators at schools where parents are more likely to object to any disciplinary action against their kids may, over time, write up and report fewer students. 2. It is not clear what you are talking about when it comes to "controversial issues." Do you mean the extent to which students are exposed to "controversial issues" on a day-to-day basis as part of the classroom curriculum? That is unlikely to vary much among schools. Do you mean the extent to which the schools themselves become embroiled in "culture war" issues? If so, Cooper clearly is among the schools more likely to get caught up in those discussion because of the number of parents and community members in that area who are conservative activists. 3. It is easiest to compare schools based on academics since you can look at SOL results across schools on the VDOE web page. Overall Cooper is slightly higher than Longfellow and Longfellow is slightly higher than Frost, which also aligns with the relative wealth of the families of the students in those pyramids. |
We have been very happy with the Frost/Woodson pyramid. Not sure what problems you’re seeing, besides the sexual assault, which could have happened anywhere and likely has, without reporting. I like the community a lot. People value education and diversity, which are important to me. I feel like people are watching out for my kids. There is a range of SES. I don’t see a lot of keeping up with the Jones. We are happy here and would not uproot my children for something that could be marginally better or not, depending on my specific children. |