Thinking of moving to Longfellow/Cooper

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Not every parent who has "wealth" spoils their child. Some of us have more sense than to raise brats, so please give parents more credit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Not every parent who has "wealth" spoils their child. Some of us have more sense than to raise brats, so please give parents more credit.

DP: Your response to PPs very thoughtful measured response based on her experience of things you want to consider is telling to me. She made no claim that all parents with wealth spoil their children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Not every parent who has "wealth" spoils their child. Some of us have more sense than to raise brats, so please give parents more credit.

Wait....so traveling and elaborate gifts automatically makes a kid a spoiled brat? Maybe you should reconsider your perspective here. Not sure that poster even implied that...she just said that it can be uncomfortable to be around people socially who have more than you. Your chip needs some chiseling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Bingo. Well said.

[Anonymous]

For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Bingo. Well said.

This is why we did not consider this. We aren’t poor and we did not want our children to have a misunderstanding of that based on what their friends would be doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

You can check the disciplinary statistics and they will generally suggest fewer infractions at wealthier schools, but it’s also the case that the reporting is not consistent across schools, because administrators know that parents at wealthier schools are more likely to challenge any attempts to discipline their kids and make the administrators’ lives miserable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

You can check the disciplinary statistics and they will generally suggest fewer infractions at wealthier schools, but it’s also the case that the reporting is not consistent across schools, because administrators know that parents at wealthier schools are more likely to challenge any attempts to discipline their kids and make the administrators’ lives miserable.

Where can I see those statistics?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

You can check the disciplinary statistics and they will generally suggest fewer infractions at wealthier schools, but it’s also the case that the reporting is not consistent across schools, because administrators know that parents at wealthier schools are more likely to challenge any attempts to discipline their kids and make the administrators’ lives miserable.

Where can I see those statistics?

I also want to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

You can check the disciplinary statistics and they will generally suggest fewer infractions at wealthier schools, but it’s also the case that the reporting is not consistent across schools, because administrators know that parents at wealthier schools are more likely to challenge any attempts to discipline their kids and make the administrators’ lives miserable.

Where can I see those statistics?

Go to the school profile. Click on the "safe and secure" tab.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For as long as there has been schools, tobacco, bathrooms, and hormones, there has been fighting and smoking (even THC) in middle school. Socioeconomic status might mean nicer cigarettes and vape pens and nicer clothes getting ripped, but maybe not as often. You will never find a utopia where this doesn't happen at all...that doesn't exist on planet Earth.

OP here. Again I am not saying or asking for an "ideal" school where NO such incidents happen at all. I am just looking for a comparison between those schools and how frequent those incidents are.
And the question is if the kids' socioeconomic status somehow reduces this frequency or not.

You can check the disciplinary statistics and they will generally suggest fewer infractions at wealthier schools, but it’s also the case that the reporting is not consistent across schools, because administrators know that parents at wealthier schools are more likely to challenge any attempts to discipline their kids and make the administrators’ lives miserable.

Where can I see those statistics?

Go to the school profile. Click on the "safe and secure" tab.

Can't find this tab, can someone post a direct link?

[Anonymous]

Longfellow/McLean is a bit more progressive than Cooper/Langley. It also contains an island of title 1 students that Cooper/Langley does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More access to money, more drugs.

+ entitlement +double the trouble

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taught at Cooper a while back. OP, the issues you mention happen everywhere. One other thing you might consider is how your child will respond to being among peers with the wealth that is in the Cooper/Langley pyramid. For some kids this wouldn't be a challenge, but for others, "keeping up" can be a thing, so something you might want to be mindful of as you make this decision. It's true that not every kid/family there lives in a mega-mansion, but when the norm seems to be that most families take multiple trips each year/students receive elaborate gifts for holidays/students have access to whatever they want, that can influence the social atmosphere in ways that might not serve your child.

Bingo. Well said.

This is why we did not consider this. We aren’t poor and we did not want our children to have a misunderstanding of that based on what their friends would be doing.

+1 It’s a matter of values.