Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

The superintendent has decided to approve a slightly modified version of option #1 for the new Richard Montgomery ES #5 (set to open fall 2018)


http://gis.mcpsmd.org/boundarystudypdfs/RMES5_SuperintendentsRecommendation.pdf

[Anonymous]

Glad he is supporting building out the shell. It's definitely needed.

[Anonymous]

155 pages!

[Anonymous]

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

RM#5 effective farm rate is 53% in recommended option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:155 pages!

Only few pages have new information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:RM#5 effective farm rate is 53% in recommended option.

So? That area has a massive FARMS and Hispanic population. It will be a better served school if the kids are walkers and they have a communizing feel. By adding the Immersion program there, they bring in some really bright involved families. Win win

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Anonymous wrote:

So? That area has a massive FARMS and Hispanic population. It will be a better served school if the kids are walkers and they have a communizing feel. By adding the Immersion program there, they bring in some really bright involved families. Win win

End result will be two low performing schools in RM cluster. Earlier you had one low performing school. A reasonable distribution of farm rate across all schools would have helped entire cluster. I do have benefit of having 2 kids in RM high school and my comments may be coming from a different angle due to hearing comments from my kids.

In pretty much all immersion like situation, you don't get much interaction with immersion and regular kids.

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End result will be two low performing schools in RM cluster. Earlier you had one low performing school. A reasonable distribution of farm rate across all schools would have helped entire cluster. I do have benefit of having 2 kids in RM high school and my comments may be coming from a different angle due to hearing comments from my kids.

In pretty much all immersion like situation, you don't get much interaction with immersion and regular kids.

Agree here. Achievement gap will only increase by concentrating all farm kids in 2 schools. Hispanic or any other race is hardly an issue. It looks like superintended simply took all farm kids and put it in two schools. One will have farm rate of 61 and lose some funding without reducing farm rate substantially. Other will have class farm rate of 53%. CI is meaningless for regular classes. Twin brook kids have all that community/geography proximity going for them and it has a very poor performance. Any class farm rate above 30 is going to make it extremely hard and here we are going to create two very high farm rate schools in cluster. It's a bad outcome for entire cluster.

Elementary parents may not realize it, but eventually all kids come together in middle and high school. It's better to not have 2 low performing elementary schools in cluster. It will have impact on entire RM cluster going forward. I have one kids in Julius west and not impacted with this, but I would have liked to see a better distribution of farm rate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

End result will be two low performing schools in RM cluster. Earlier you had one low performing school. A reasonable distribution of farm rate across all schools would have helped entire cluster. I do have benefit of having 2 kids in RM high school and my comments may be coming from a different angle due to hearing comments from my kids.

In pretty much all immersion like situation, you don't get much interaction with immersion and regular kids.

Agree here. Achievement gap will only increase by concentrating all farm kids in 2 schools. Hispanic or any other race is hardly an issue. It looks like superintended simply took all farm kids and put it in two schools. One will have farm rate of 61 and lose some funding without reducing farm rate substantially. Other will have class farm rate of 53%. CI is meaningless for regular classes. Twin brook kids have all that community/geography proximity going for them and it has a very poor performance. Any class farm rate above 30 is going to make it extremely hard and here we are going to create two very high farm rate schools in cluster. It's a bad outcome for entire cluster.

Elementary parents may not realize it, but eventually all kids come together in middle and high school. It's better to not have 2 low performing elementary schools in cluster. It will have impact on entire RM cluster going forward. I have one kids in Julius west and not impacted with this, but I would have liked to see a better distribution of farm rate.

I agree with the PP. It would be better to distribute the FARMS kids more evenly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with the PP. It would be better to distribute the FARMS kids more evenly.

Even if this required bus rides/longer bus rides for low-income kids who would otherwise walk/have shorter bus rides?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So? That area has a massive FARMS and Hispanic population. It will be a better served school if the kids are walkers and they have a communizing feel. By adding the Immersion program there, they bring in some really bright involved families. Win win

End result will be two low performing schools in RM cluster. Earlier you had one low performing school. A reasonable distribution of farm rate across all schools would have helped entire cluster. I do have benefit of having 2 kids in RM high school and my comments may be coming from a different angle due to hearing comments from my kids.

In pretty much all immersion like situation, you don't get much interaction with immersion and regular kids.

Hi PP. How has your RM experience been? Asking bc I may move in bounds to that hs.

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Anonymous wrote:

I agree with the PP. It would be better to distribute the FARMS kids more evenly.

Even if this required bus rides/longer bus rides for low-income kids who would otherwise walk/have shorter bus rides?

Yes. Absolutely.

We are at a high FARMS rate FOCUs school and it’s very difficult to build community even with a FARMS rate lower than 50%.

Often lower income parents aren’t in a position to walk the kid to school so they like having the option of a bus - grandparent can pick up and it gives them a little extra time at the end of the school day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with the PP. It would be better to distribute the FARMS kids more evenly.

Even if this required bus rides/longer bus rides for low-income kids who would otherwise walk/have shorter bus rides?

Yes. Absolutely.

We are at a high FARMS rate FOCUs school and it’s very difficult to build community even with a FARMS rate lower than 50%.

Often lower income parents aren’t in a position to walk the kid to school so they like having the option of a bus - grandparent can pick up and it gives them a little extra time at the end of the school day.

Why not bus the non-low-income kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with the PP. It would be better to distribute the FARMS kids more evenly.

Even if this required bus rides/longer bus rides for low-income kids who would otherwise walk/have shorter bus rides?

Yes. Absolutely.

We are at a high FARMS rate FOCUs school and it’s very difficult to build community even with a FARMS rate lower than 50%.

Often lower income parents aren’t in a position to walk the kid to school so they like having the option of a bus - grandparent can pick up and it gives them a little extra time at the end of the school day.

On the flip side, being farther from the school makes it harder for those parents to be involved - especially if they rely on public transportation. At Jones Lane ES (in QO cluster), students are bussed in and parents without cars need to spend hours on public transportation to get to the school when the area those students are bussed from has another school within walking distance - think about how that would work for parent/teacher conferences, PTA meetings, community events, picking up your child early when they are sick/hurt, etc.