No. they share their stories and perceptions (which are inherently biased) and people respond based on their understanding. People routinely lie about details of their experience specifically to retain anonymity (like I think it's unlikely OP lives in Loudon county, had this experience at a winery, or knows these women in the precise way she described, because if true that would make it highly likely one of them might see this thread and know she wrote it -- I assume most details like that have been changed), with the intention to discuss the underlying theme or issue and get feedback or conversation. That is why it's dumb to demand specific details or get bogged down in stuff like the location of the event or exactly how OP knows these people. It's HIGHLY likely she didn't share actual facts on those points. The part that is likely true is that she saw a group of women she knows from a specific setting out together, it was awkward, and she felt left out. That's really the only thing relevant to the situation because the rest is probably made up. But we have a bunch of wanna-be Murder She Wrotes on this thread thinking they are gonna crack the case and prove OP is a jerk liar. It's delusional. OP's name is Larla McLarlerson, she lives on Larler Drive and her kids attend Larla Academy. Just like the rest of us. |
I haven’t witnessed any Mom cliques at wineries or restaurants because I don’t go to those places by myself to even witness them. So I don’t have a Mom clique story. |
I think people are just arguing with each other. There is one prolific watch dog poster who is incensed that anyone interpreted the snarky OP differently than she did and she's been posting about it for about 40 pages. If you actually read what's being posted its mostly a conversation between other posters, not about OP. If people could just accept people have different takes instead of telling them how to think or that there is only one correct way this would be a lot shorter. We get it some of you relate to being excluded, but other people are put off by OP's language and responded accordingly and don't want to play her game. |
Wow what a bitter, spiteful woman you are. I hope your kid turned out different. Gotta let things go ladies. Everyone is doing their own thing and has a lot going on. |
+1 exactly |
Because this thread has lit a fire with a bunch of misogynistic posters. Show me a nearly 50 page thread breaking down the social rules of when men are allowed to get together in groups, who they should invite (lest they be considered a clique), judging them for their chosen daytime activities and/or employment status … I’ll wait. The fact is many women have been raised to be people pleasers, and the constantly think of others, and are twisting themselves into pretzels as to why OP was wronged or her feelings are valid. Sorry, but if I go on a group outing I in no way feel socially required to include others who aren’t invited (not talking about a small core group and leaving 1 person out or rudely talking about an event in front of someone not invited). I have a lot friends, multiple friend groups, get a lot of invites, and am a nice outgoing person. But I’m going to live my life and make plans without taking all my other friends’ feelings into consideration. |
These are not 15 bus stop moms. 2 of the 15 are at her bus stop. |
+1 She asserts that the others “felt awkward” but how the heck does she know how others are feeling? If she said shared that she went over to say hi and they ignored her or were short with her or gave her a nasty look and walked away she’d have a point. But why not share if that is what happened vs a vague assertion that she knows what is in the mind of other people. I think she was projecting her feelings onto them most likely. |
The number of you who seem to think this is a court of law and you've been asked to come and assess the validity of OP's feelings is amazing. I tend to believe that OP was excluded in some way and the other women looked awkward, specifically because she didn't provide an airtight story with perfect facts that would prove to you once and for all that this women definitely excluded her. Her story rings true to me because she's not trying to present it in this perfect way that will satisfy a bunch of people who are determined to say she had no right to feel the way she did. Does that mean the other women are terrible? No! I've been in the group that left someone out before. I am not a terrible person and in most cases I either didn't know someone had been left out or I felt there was a good reason for doing it. But also -- I bet it didn't feel good for those women. You can believe OP that it was awkward and that she felt bad without needing to call in the National Guard to investigate exactly what happened here. |
+2 Is it the same PP who keeps insisting that inferences are no longer allowed on DCUM? So weird! |
Likewise people don't need to be told what OP likely meant or really meant, by people doing the same thing. You don't need to browbeat people into submission to accept THE truth, as you see it. |
Okay well just like you believe OP’s story rings true, I do not believe her based on the lack of supportive facts and overreactive text message (nearly everyone agrees on the latter part). My personal take is that someone who sends that type of message is an over-reactor based on subjective feelings and not a reliable narrator of objective facts. We’ll just have to disagree. Such is the nature of discussion boards. Because I have a different take doesn’t mean I’m treating it like a court of law. I’m just interpreting the same post in a different way as are many others. |
I agree with you that it's fine if we disagree. I don't have a problem with that. What I think is weird is people saying "show me the evidence! I want evidence!" What? You either identify/believe OP or you don't. If you don't, I don't even understand why you'd hang around on the thread. There is zero point in arguing over what "really" happened because we'll never know. So you can either engage with it at face value (okay, assuming this is what happened, here's my take) or you can decide it's bunk and move on. |
I don't understand why you care so much whether people believe what an anonymous poster posted. And then make rules of engagement. Some believe her, some don't. You can easily move on from trying to lecture people who don't, yet you won't. |
But you're not going to go to the bathroom without me, right? Otherwise, I will make a thread about how you slighted our deepest bonds bestie #12 |