[/b] In my experience, bicyclists expect everyone else to yield to them at intersections, which is not how this is supposed to work. |
There's plenty of posts by people saying they do some of these things on purpose in order to deliberately piss off strangers. |
Cyclists as a group know they piss off drivers (not just slowing us down and being totally unpredictable) but drivers as a group do NOT want to involved when your stupidity results in the inevitable accident. |
Oh please. The very existence of a cyclist seems to piss off a large group of motorists (some of whom have commented many times on this thread). So what, you want all cyclists to just de-exist themselves? People were complaining about the person who was going like 6 miles under the speed *limit* toward a red light saying they were being an ahole for being in the left lane when a vehicle was parked in the right for christsake. Yes, some of these protest rides are to demonstrate that many cyclists exist. But even they are usually keeping to a lane or two depending on group size. |
A car that "stops" and a bike that rolls through an intersection are moving about the same speed, while the vehicle also has a few orders of magnitude more kinetic energy. The unfortunate reality is that if everyone actually obeyed the law, including speed limits, the transportation system would collapse. So rather than finger pointing on who is a bigger scofflaw, maybe its time to revamp our infrastructure. |
Again, this is an inane comparison. What you're complaining about is cars that didn't technically, completely stop, which means that car is traveling through the intersection at less than one mile per hour. What drivers are complaining about bicyclists who go flying through an intersection at 10 or 15 miles per hour. What causes crashes is people doing things other people didnt anticipate. A car going a half mile per hour is not going to surprise anyone and it can stop extremely quickly. A bike or e-bike flying through an intersection at full speed is something else entirely. That is a lot more surprisinng, and they can't stop quickly if there's a problem. |
oh do tell. i would love to hear your completely batshit theory about how obeying traffic laws will blow up the whole system. (please note: a driver would never make such a crazy argument). |
Speed limits being the obvious one. Stopping at yellows, stopping at signs, yielding to pedestrians, making only legal rights on red. If people don't park in bus stops/bike lanes and instead circle for parking, etc... Drivers are so used to these things they don't even really consider them illegal anymore. Take away all those little violations and what happens to traffic flow? How many cars clear a light per cycle then vs now? |
Sounds completely unsafe. Only an idiot would put themselves in danger that way. That’s why there’s too few of you to justify spending more on infrastructure when cyclists regularly disdain what’s already been provided for them. You want to play in traffic at least take some minimal amount of responsibility for your own choices. |
This. Pedestrians don't want cyclists on the sidewalks. Motorists don't want them on the streets. But the motorists the oppose bike lanes and somehow wish they mode of transportation would simply vanish. |
How about this? Everyone follows the fkng law, regardless of whether they agree with it. |
Or you could just take the bus? or walk or ride the subway or uber or drive. You have plenty of other options. |
So can motorists. Bicycles have been a viable transportation option for over a century. |
Great! Discussion over! No need for special accommodations for cyclists!!! I don’t know what everyone is complaining about. Carry on! |
Points for honestly, although I think I saw a cyclist stop for a stop sign once. |