They're not that rare in residential neighborhoods outside of rush hour. I can usually get about a mile from my house before I approach an intersection with a stop sign at the same time as a pedestrian or another vehicle on my bike. (Traffic lights obviously are different.) By definition, the only people who really would know if most Idaho stops are being performed correctly are the cyclists doing the stopping; if there was someone else at the intersection, it wouldn't be legal. So the fact that we don't see people doing them right doesn't really prove that no one does. FWIW, I always stop at stop signs on my bike if there are others at the intersection, though a lot of drivers seem to expect me not to and try to waive me to go. That may be an indication of typical cyclist behavior, or maybe they think they need to yield to bikes, or maybe they're trying to be helpful (though once I stop, I may as well wait for every car at an intersection to go, even if I have right of way). |
Yes, I bet this happens all the time exactly as you describe it. |
Or.. you know, do what I do now which is cruise toward a red light while watching the walk counter count down and then start pedaling when the one on my side is about to tick off so I can go with the leading pedestrian signal. Pisses off some of the motorists though, because that stops them from speeding to the red light just to stop. |
Are you that fellow from Sedgwick Gardens who "rides 400 miles a month"? The one who, if taken at face value, it walking proof that you can't outride a bad diet? |
Why would you want to piss anyone off, let alone boast about being an ahole. Putting aside the safety implications, it's just very sad. |
I see this kind of thing a lot. |
And in other news, hundreds of thousands of DC residents took millions of steps today without being shot dead. We can infer from this that DC has no crime problem at all and can all rest easy. |
You don’t understand the difference between yielding and stopping, do you? |
Thank you for this. I almost shot wine out of my nose. While you can't outride a bad diet, that guy is going to give himself a stroke yelling at people who disagree with him. |
No. I seriously doubt I’ve ridden 400 miles in a typical year. Probably half that. I mostly ride when I don’t feel like dealing with parking or there just isn’t parking where I’m going. I use Metro with my bike a lot, too. And I like to do things that annoy the serious cyclists. I enjoy that, too. |
It pretty much does. |
When I drove a stick shift, I would also do the cruise to the red light thing to avoid clutch use. The cyclist above here isn't trying to piss people off, they are trying to be efficient. |
DP. You really have a distorted view of reality. No one cares what you’re doing when no one sees you. The problem is what you’re doing when everyone sees you. The problem I have is that every time I have been a at four way stop with a cyclist the cyclist breaks the law. You and your buddies need to stop breaking the law. It’s that simple. *predicting that your response will be some whataboutism about cars* |
And every time I am at a 4 way stop sign, someone driving a car is breaking the law. The difference is, when a cyclist does it, the ramifications are minimal to nil. When someone driving a car does it, it can be catastrophic. |
Not really. You're comparing a cyclist going full speed through an intersection, often when they dont have the right of way, to car that you think didn't technically completely 100 percent stop. Those aren't remotely the same thing. Regardless, everyone should be following the law, and no one should be making up reasons why they are exempt from it. |