BOE - who are people voting for?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

+3 🍎 apple

+4 - the apple ballot picks from last election - Julie Yang and Grace Rivera Oven - have been rock stars in making this one of the best BOEs we've had in decades, so I'm going to keep it up and vote Apple straight up and down to make sure we continue this streak of success

Rivera Oven misses half the meetings, and the other ones- you wouldnt even know shes there!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

+3 🍎 apple

+4 - the apple ballot picks from last election - Julie Yang and Grace Rivera Oven - have been rock stars in making this one of the best BOEs we've had in decades, so I'm going to keep it up and vote Apple straight up and down to make sure we continue this streak of success

Rivera Oven misses half the meetings, and the other ones- you wouldnt even know shes there!

I don't see her missing half the meetings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

+3 🍎 apple

+4 - the apple ballot picks from last election - Julie Yang and Grace Rivera Oven - have been rock stars in making this one of the best BOEs we've had in decades, so I'm going to keep it up and vote Apple straight up and down to make sure we continue this streak of success

What streak of success? Surely you jest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

+3 🍎 apple

+4 - the apple ballot picks from last election - Julie Yang and Grace Rivera Oven - have been rock stars in making this one of the best BOEs we've had in decades, so I'm going to keep it up and vote Apple straight up and down to make sure we continue this streak of success

What streak of success? Surely you jest.

The type of streak you'd expect from the string of stellar Apple Ballot candidates who won their races

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

+3 🍎 apple

+4 - the apple ballot picks from last election - Julie Yang and Grace Rivera Oven - have been rock stars in making this one of the best BOEs we've had in decades, so I'm going to keep it up and vote Apple straight up and down to make sure we continue this streak of success

I can say Julie and Grace are the better of the bunch of the board members we have currently. They don't fawn all over MCPS staff and take everything they say as the gospel.

Like Shebra Evans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

Voting blindly for the apple ballot is part of what got us into the mess we’re in.

But it's not blindly; I'm voting for Apple because they make the best picks.

No. They picked all the incumbents you’re yelling about on here as being feckless

Lynne Harris has never gotten the Apple Ballot endorsement. Shebra Evans and Rebecca Smondrowski did not get it the last time they ran, but they did the first time they ran.

I wonder why the MCEA doesn't like Lynne. She seems to check a lot of their typical boxes, and she was a former educator herself, no?

Good question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

Voting blindly for the apple ballot is part of what got us into the mess we’re in.

But it's not blindly; I'm voting for Apple because they make the best picks.

No. They picked all the incumbents you’re yelling about on here as being feckless

Lynne Harris has never gotten the Apple Ballot endorsement. Shebra Evans and Rebecca Smondrowski did not get it the last time they ran, but they did the first time they ran.

I wonder why the MCEA doesn't like Lynne. She seems to check a lot of their typical boxes, and she was a former educator herself, no?

Good question.

I think it's just a wise strategy for MCEA to endorse non-incumbents, especially this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Interesting. I didn't realize this had been passed. What happens now since the commission passed this recommendation and nothing happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Typical that the Parents Coalition negged the suggestion. "What do we want? Oversight! How will we get it? Not with our tax dollars!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who are you voting for?

No one in this District!!!!

Disappointing candidates

Push for the County Council to make BOE full time senior professional pay and we might get someone competent who reflects family interests more broadly. Until then, expect a few single-issue folks, a few heavy partisans and maybe an independently wealthy socialite, each crusader-types in their own right.

But, then, the heavily partisan County Council are just fine with that, with little chance for the first, the second being closely aligned and the third being the ones who have them in their pocket, anyway.

The County Council can't do it. It would be members of the Montgomery County delegation to the General Assembly introducing legislation.

In a way, yes, but unless this has changed, it starts with the County Executive and County Council appointing folks to the compensation commission, and we know how such appointments work:

"MONTGOMERY COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION COMPENSATION COMMISSION
In October 2018, the Montgomery County Board of Education Compensation Commission was created (Chapter 121, Acts of 2018).

Salaries of the County Board of Education are studied by the Commission, which reports to Montgomery County's General Assembly Delegation. Commission recommendations cover not only the appropriate compensation for Board members, but also whether the Board president should receive an additional stipend, and what scholarship amount to award the student Board member. After receiving the Commission's recommendations, the County's General Assembly Delegation may introduce legislation to change the salaries of Board members.

The Commission's first report is due September 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter.

Five Montgomery County residents are appointed to the Commission by the County Executive with County Council consent. The initial members must be appointed by January 1, 2019, and every four years thereafter."

That commission already issued a report that recommended the increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/pay-would-more-than-double-for-montgomery-county-md-school-board-members-under-proposal/2019/12/29/d2217334-233c-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Also looks as though they haven't met since late 2019 and that there weren't new commissioners appointed (or re-appointments made) in January 2023, as required by the statute. From the MoCo page

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/boards/sites/becc/

they still have

Chair: Jaye Espy
Vice Chair: Mark Spradley
Commissioner: Ting Chau, Jennifer Sawin, Jason Washington

[Anonymous]

Mui and mandel

[Anonymous]

I like Hidayat. He’s spoken at length about holding MCPS accountable in ways I haven’t heard the Apple Ballot candidates really talking about. And before you say it— Not in a MAGA/right-wing way, but in a professional, logical manner that is very refreshing. It’s exhausting watching this train wreck year after year while the BOE stays silent or does the absolute bare minimum. We need someone to ask the hard questions and hold MCPS to a higher standard. Hidayat has my vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:+1 Apple

+2 Apple

Voting blindly for the apple ballot is part of what got us into the mess we’re in.

But it's not blindly; I'm voting for Apple because they make the best picks.

No. They picked all the incumbents you’re yelling about on here as being feckless

Lynne Harris has never gotten the Apple Ballot endorsement. Shebra Evans and Rebecca Smondrowski did not get it the last time they ran, but they did the first time they ran.

I wonder why the MCEA doesn't like Lynne. She seems to check a lot of their typical boxes, and she was a former educator herself, no?

Good question.

I think it's just a wise strategy for MCEA to endorse non-incumbents, especially this year.

because they are the best choices