APS: Wow, the SB meeting was a DOOZY

[Anonymous]

Long, but so entertaining. Tannia accused Reid of "microaggressions"!

There were only 2 ppl commenting on the high school recommendation, but both were great. One accused the board of taking the easy way out & punting the hard decisions to the next board. Kudos to both of them. I hope lots of people speak at the public comment session in 2 weeks.

After watching the entire thing, I walk away a huge fan of Reid. He's the only one asking the right questions. He understands that the county board's housing policy results in segregated schools. He doesn't robotically spit out the "but all our schools are great" BS that the rest of them do while clutching their pearls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long, but so entertaining. Tannia accused Reid of "microaggressions"!

There were only 2 ppl commenting on the high school recommendation, but both were great. One accused the board of taking the easy way out & punting the hard decisions to the next board. Kudos to both of them. I hope lots of people speak at the public comment session in 2 weeks.

After watching the entire thing, I walk away a huge fan of Reid. He's the only one asking the right questions. He understands that the county board's housing policy results in segregated schools. He doesn't robotically spit out the "but all our schools are great" BS that the rest of them do while clutching their pearls.

I can't wait to watch. I figure if Reid was ruffling feathers of the NVD crew, he must be doing something right!

[Anonymous]

Microaggressions?
Please link and tell us around what time.

[Anonymous]

Liberal dude here: Tania deserves to be crucified for using that word. Wow. What a snowflake.

How can we get Nancy Van Doren off the SB and ensure she never holds public office in Arlington again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Microaggressions?
Please link and tell us around what time.

OP here. I have the livestream app (follow AETVaps), and I livestreamed it last night, so I didn't see times or I would have marked it down! It started at 7 p.m., and I think this happened close to 10 p.m., so it was a looooong way in. I actually didn't start streaming until 8:15 and still saw tons of the juicy parts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Microaggressions?
Please link and tell us around what time.

OP here. I have the livestream app (follow AETVaps), and I livestreamed it last night, so I didn't see times or I would have marked it down! It started at 7 p.m., and I think this happened close to 10 p.m., so it was a looooong way in. I actually didn't start streaming until 8:15 and still saw tons of the juicy parts.

Found it! https://livestream.com/accounts/15710745/events/6861373

Reid starts at 2:37. Lander makes his typical comments first, then Tannia starts in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Liberal dude here: Tania deserves to be crucified for using that word. Wow. What a snowflake.

How can we get Nancy Van Doren off the SB and ensure she never holds public office in Arlington again?

I would not be surprised if she were to resign -- she can't cope with resistance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberal dude here: Tania deserves to be crucified for using that word. Wow. What a snowflake.

How can we get Nancy Van Doren off the SB and ensure she never holds public office in Arlington again?

I would not be surprised if she were to resign -- she can't cope with resistance.

Since she was just re-elected last year, resignation is the only way she won't be on the board.

[Anonymous]

The gist of the conversation is that Reid said that we need to be doing more to increase diversity across APS schools. The Center for American Progress is coming out with a report that apparently highlights APS as meeting the definition of a segregated school system. Tannia's point seemed to be that the minority students prefer being clustered together because it makes them feel more comfortable. She said that she didn't appreciate growing up as the token Latino in her own school district. She seemed to be saying that Reid, as a white male, doesn't have the right to say what is best for minority students. A lot of people think the segregation in Arlington is because 22207 prefers to stay white and upper-class- which is partly true, at least in some circles. But the other part of the equation that doesn't get talked about is that the Arlington Latino community does not want to integrate either. I have heard this opinion expressed privately by APS staff and prominent Arlington Dems, but Tannia last night kicked it out into the open for the first time. It was a weird exchange, but I'm glad that we can finally be open about the dynamics going on here. It is also why Arl Co politicians continue to concentrate affordable housing along the Pike and try to demonize CARD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The gist of the conversation is that Reid said that we need to be doing more to increase diversity across APS schools. The Center for American Progress is coming out with a report that apparently highlights APS as meeting the definition of a segregated school system. Tannia's point seemed to be that the minority students prefer being clustered together because it makes them feel more comfortable. She said that she didn't appreciate growing up as the token Latino in her own school district. She seemed to be saying that Reid, as a white male, doesn't have the right to say what is best for minority students. A lot of people think the segregation in Arlington is because 22207 prefers to stay white and upper-class- which is partly true, at least in some circles. But the other part of the equation that doesn't get talked about is that the Arlington Latino community does not want to integrate either. I have heard this opinion expressed privately by APS staff and prominent Arlington Dems, but Tannia last night kicked it out into the open for the first time. It was a weird exchange, but I'm glad that we can finally be open about the dynamics going on here. It is also why Arl Co politicians continue to concentrate affordable housing along the Pike and try to demonize CARD.

She should make that point without using idiotic terms like "microaggression." She sounds like a petulant college freshman all worked up about wimmins studies.

[Anonymous]

Nancy is so hostile! I'm going to love this thread. Happy Friday, folks.

[Anonymous]

Wouldn't a truly diverse student population not have tokens? I have given up on Yorktown ever being anything other than affluent, plus some white flight transfers who bought in SArl but wouldn't send their kids to Wakefield, but there ought to be a way to create a good balance in the other high schools.

I'm not advocating a repeat of putting one neighborhood on a bus out of a belief that the poor kids would be lucky to get to go to the rich school. But I don't think having an imbalance helps anyone (I think it's bad for Yorktown, too, I just don't care).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
She should make that point without using idiotic terms like "microaggression." She sounds like a petulant college freshman all worked up about wimmins studies.

You're not the poster who claims to be a liberal, are you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gist of the conversation is that Reid said that we need to be doing more to increase diversity across APS schools. The Center for American Progress is coming out with a report that apparently highlights APS as meeting the definition of a segregated school system. Tannia's point seemed to be that the minority students prefer being clustered together because it makes them feel more comfortable. She said that she didn't appreciate growing up as the token Latino in her own school district. She seemed to be saying that Reid, as a white male, doesn't have the right to say what is best for minority students. A lot of people think the segregation in Arlington is because 22207 prefers to stay white and upper-class- which is partly true, at least in some circles. But the other part of the equation that doesn't get talked about is that the Arlington Latino community does not want to integrate either. I have heard this opinion expressed privately by APS staff and prominent Arlington Dems, but Tannia last night kicked it out into the open for the first time. It was a weird exchange, but I'm glad that we can finally be open about the dynamics going on here. It is also why Arl Co politicians continue to concentrate affordable housing along the Pike and try to demonize CARD.

She should make that point without using idiotic terms like "microaggression." She sounds like a petulant college freshman all worked up about wimmins studies.

When NVD comments about this in the video, she says that the Center for American Progress group does NOT consider APS to be segregated. She said they reexamined their data & determined no segregation. But this isn't public yet. I wonder who went to them and told them to "look at your data again." Kind of ironic since APS is notoriously bad at data themselves. But it was funny to hear "We're not segregated! Nope, no segregation here!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The gist of the conversation is that Reid said that we need to be doing more to increase diversity across APS schools. The Center for American Progress is coming out with a report that apparently highlights APS as meeting the definition of a segregated school system. Tannia's point seemed to be that the minority students prefer being clustered together because it makes them feel more comfortable. She said that she didn't appreciate growing up as the token Latino in her own school district. She seemed to be saying that Reid, as a white male, doesn't have the right to say what is best for minority students. A lot of people think the segregation in Arlington is because 22207 prefers to stay white and upper-class- which is partly true, at least in some circles. But the other part of the equation that doesn't get talked about is that the Arlington Latino community does not want to integrate either. I have heard this opinion expressed privately by APS staff and prominent Arlington Dems, but Tannia last night kicked it out into the open for the first time. It was a weird exchange, but I'm glad that we can finally be open about the dynamics going on here. It is also why Arl Co politicians continue to concentrate affordable housing along the Pike and try to demonize CARD.

She should make that point without using idiotic terms like "microaggression." She sounds like a petulant college freshman all worked up about wimmins studies.

I think this is all identifying an interesting and difficult conversation. I think all of the above is probably true, both in 22207 and in the Latino community. People are generally more comfortable with people who are like them. I don't know that it is right that white UMC people like me should be telling other populations, whether defined by racial/ethnic status or by socioeconomic status, that they should want integrated schools, or "better schools," or to go to Yorktown, or whatever. It can be kind of patronizing/white man's burden kind of stuff. But, it does seem from a SCHOOL perspective that there is research and some level of consensus that concentrated low-income students leads to worse outcomes for the low-income students and increases the burden on the school/staff itself. For that reason, I'm in favor of increasing diversity in our schools and would try to do so based on socioeconomic status because that's the criterion I think most relates to school success/failure.

I also think there are people who don't agree with me whether because they're opportunity-hoarders (as the phrase is used in another thread) or because they don't believe gov't needs to engineer society or they simply want their kids to walk to school. For those of us who are pro-diversity, we also need to take a hard look at ourselves and whether our motivations are, beneath it all, to try to improve our so-so schools so that we get a better outcome for our own kids. I'm in South Arlington. Maybe my subconscious motivation is to favor diversity because it will help my kids' school "improve."