Kushner, Manafort and Don Jr. met with a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties during the campaign

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Anonymous wrote:Donald Jr. is going to look as "good" in Orange as daddy does. Kushner and Manifort too. That's the ballgame for these three. Federal crime committed and prove via Jr. Own tweets.

Also, is Don Jr. doiing an insanity defense thing? No sane person would tweet: Hey! Here's the written proof I committed a federal crime!

Also: Don, Jr.'s lawyer either needs to resign (because Donny did the exact opposite of what was advised. Which would have been Shut Up!). Or disbarred for gross incompetence. Dealers choice.

It's a beautiful day.

Daddy can pardon him. You don't think he will? Then you haven't been paying attention. Things aren't normal anymore.

Mueller's team is drawn from the Southern District, which is in, uh, NY, where the Trumps reside, all of them. The Southern District will move on the Trump family even if Trump pardons them. And Trump can't pardon himself.

Not quite. DOJ is federal, Trump can pardon all federal offenses. What he can't pardon are state offenses. Since this happened in NY, NY State could charge them. The question then becomes, did they break NY state law? Because NY can't charge them for breaking federal law.

The connections between Mueller's team and the Southern District are very close. These people talk to each other, obviously. When they're done with the Mueller investigation, they're going back to NY. The Southern District will prosecute the Trumps for breaking NY laws. There will be indictments in NY, count on it.

Okay. Trying again for the slow and stupid. SDNY is A FEDERAL JUDICIAL DISTRICT. Will federal crimes be prosecuted there, if they are not pardoned. Depends on several things. DC Circuit may also have a claim. But this is FEDERAL CRIMES. FEDERAL For the slow.

NY State crimes will be prosecuted in NY STATE COURT. State Crimes. State Court. Federal Crimes (can be pardoned by POTUS), Federal Court. NY STate crimes cannot be prosecuted in SDNY. See? No? *Facepalm*

There may be racketeering in which case the good state of NY can proceed with a trial. FACEPALM.

Sure. But that's not what PP kept saying. They said-- several times before this, BTW and were corrected-- that SDNY "will prosecute Trumps for breaking NY law." That is not true, as has been pointed out. NY State Courts prosecute Trump's for breaking NY law. SDNY may or may not be the venue where federal crimes are tried. *Facepalm* (PS-- please read).

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Even supporters of Trump Jr. who believe he faces no legal repercussions privately acknowledged Tuesday that the story is a public relations disaster — for him as well as for the White House. One outside ally called it a “Category 5 hurricane,” while an outside adviser said a CNN graphic charting connections between the Trump team and Russians resembled the plot of the fictional Netflix series “House of Cards.”

Even Vice President Pence sought to distance himself from the controversy, with his spokesman noting that Trump Jr.’s meeting occurred before Pence joined the ticket.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/category-5-hurricane-white-house-under-siege-by-trump-jrs-russia-revelations/2017/07/11/1e091478-664d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_whitehouse-910pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0bd919665434

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Even Trey Gowdy acknowledges that this is a problem in a surprise Fox interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwKUc0QzAmQ

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Anonymous wrote:Even supporters of Trump Jr. who believe he faces no legal repercussions privately acknowledged Tuesday that the story is a public relations disaster — for him as well as for the White House. One outside ally called it a “Category 5 hurricane,” while an outside adviser said a CNN graphic charting connections between the Trump team and Russians resembled the plot of the fictional Netflix series “House of Cards.”

Even Vice President Pence sought to distance himself from the controversy, with his spokesman noting that Trump Jr.’s meeting occurred before Pence joined the ticket.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/category-5-hurricane-white-house-under-siege-by-trump-jrs-russia-revelations/2017/07/11/1e091478-664d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_whitehouse-910pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0bd919665434

Trump on the other hand cannot distance himself from it. He was hinting at dirt on Hillary as the meeting was being set up: http://time.com/4360872/donald-trump-new-jersey-victory-speech-transcript/

And... the RNC is also implicated, because Rience Priebus was there for it.

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/884607765150355457

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Anonymous wrote:Even Trey Gowdy acknowledges that this is a problem in a surprise Fox interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwKUc0QzAmQ

Trey Gowdy actually being fair and reasonable! Trump should be very agrsid!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Even Trey Gowdy acknowledges that this is a problem in a surprise Fox interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwKUc0QzAmQ

Thanks for posting. Hopefully other congresspeople are equally alarmed.

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Anonymous wrote:Even supporters of Trump Jr. who believe he faces no legal repercussions privately acknowledged Tuesday that the story is a public relations disaster — for him as well as for the White House. One outside ally called it a “Category 5 hurricane,” while an outside adviser said a CNN graphic charting connections between the Trump team and Russians resembled the plot of the fictional Netflix series “House of Cards.”

Even Vice President Pence sought to distance himself from the controversy, with his spokesman noting that Trump Jr.’s meeting occurred before Pence joined the ticket.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/category-5-hurricane-white-house-under-siege-by-trump-jrs-russia-revelations/2017/07/11/1e091478-664d-11e7-8eb5-cbccc2e7bfbf_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_whitehouse-910pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0bd919665434

Trump on the other hand cannot distance himself from it. He was hinting at dirt on Hillary as the meeting was being set up: http://time.com/4360872/donald-trump-new-jersey-victory-speech-transcript/

And... the RNC is also implicated, because Rience Priebus was there for it.

https://twitter.com/propublica/status/884607765150355457

And a week later was the McCarthy/Ryan "Putin pays Trump" meeting, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Even Trey Gowdy acknowledges that this is a problem in a surprise Fox interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwKUc0QzAmQ

This is actually a very interesting interview. Trey Gowdy really said those words! Are the republican developing new patriotic bones!

He said there are many people in trump's orbit with strange case of amnesia. He also said he is more troubled by the advertised purpose of the meeting in stead of what the junior claimed to have happened in the actual meeting.... Trumpettes, will you pay attention to the words of one of your own?

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What is Gowdy's motive here?

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Anonymous wrote:What is Gowdy's motive here?

Who the hell knows? It certainly isn't patriotism. Whatever Gowdy's motive is, you can bet it's self serving.

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Anonymous wrote:FYI Jared sexton Yates is losing his mind on twitter. Said he and others have been sourcing this story for a year trying to verify it and Jr just tweeted it.

Colbert mentioned this tonight.

He also wants to apologize to Eric Trump. "We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong."

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Anonymous wrote:FYI Jared sexton Yates is losing his mind on twitter. Said he and others have been sourcing this story for a year trying to verify it and Jr just tweeted it.

Colbert mentioned this tonight.

He also wants to apologize to Eric Trump. "We always thought you were the dumb one. We were wrong."

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It may not matter if it can be proven if Trump Jr. solicited Russia or not. Trump Jr., Manafort, and Kushner failed to record the meeting on the SF86 UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY. Game. Set. Match.

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Only Kushner filled out an SF-86.

The others are not in the Administration and do not have clearance.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems like it would have been better to have NYT release the emails. At least Jr could have said that NYT doctored the emails or something. Even if patently false, I would bet that a significant portion of their base would have fallen for that. Since he released the emails himself, he can't make any claims of Fake News, the fallback of their base. What rationale do they have now? ZERO.

Yup. thanks for authenticating the emails, Don. He's clearly not getting any legal advice, just doing whatever.

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

You kinda get the feeling Don Jr isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I find it completely plausible that he saw nothing wrong with getting dirt on Hillary from a foreign government.